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Teachers earn more than editors & reporters
email ^ | Craig J. Cantoni

Posted on 05/28/2003 3:12:40 PM PDT by hsmomx3

The Summer 2003 edition of the education journal "Education Next" has statistics on teacher pay from the Bureau of Labor Statistics that match my own research. To quote: "Teachers earn more per hour than architects, civil engineers, mechanical engineers, statisticians, biological and life scientists, registered nurses, university-level foreign-language teachers, and editors and reporters." The statistics exclude benefits, which are far richer for teachers than for private-sector employees.

On a related note, the web site of a private citizen has great graphs and stats on government spending. One graph shows how education productivity has declined by 70 percent over the last 40 years, based on the ratio of SAT scores to inflation-adjusted per-pupil spending. The graph can be found at:

http://mwhodges.home.att.net/education.htm

Regards,

Craig J. Cantoni

Capstone Consulting Group

480-661-8175

Fax 480-661-8155


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KEYWORDS: teachers; teacherspay
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To: RomanCatholicProlifer
Like my wife, I'm not in the union. FWIW Does the Roman Catholic Church

teach you to hate everybody so much, 0r did you learn that on your own?

I'd like to take you to the firehall for 24 hours.

We would see real quick who sucks off of what.

321 posted on 06/05/2003 10:09:14 AM PDT by DainBramage
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To: Laur
You are right on the button. My wife is ALSO a teacher. I have three more years in teaching than she does . She teaches in another district only 15 miles from where I teach . The DIFFERENCE in salary between the districts for the SAME amount of education and seniority is around $25,000.00
Wish I had the auto insurance provision , but I make it up with medical coverage for life after 25 years of service .
322 posted on 06/05/2003 11:06:08 AM PDT by Renegade
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To: MurryMom
Sorry to bring this back to the present, but the AFL-CIO and other lobbyists are trying to get teachers to pay far more taxes out of their already miniscule paychecks.
And.. THEY'RE ALL DEMOCRATS that are trying to take away said money.

You said that teachers need all the sympathy.
If Democrats REALLY cared, then let teachers keep more of their pay, right?
If you think you don't pay enough in taxes, vote Democrat.
Otherwise, don't complain at tax time.
323 posted on 06/26/2003 8:10:18 AM PDT by Darksheare ("It's no use, the voices are on MY side.")
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To: Darksheare
If you think you don't pay enough in taxes, vote Democrat.

Otherwise, don't complain at tax time.

OTOH, if you don't think the Government is borrowing enough, re-elect the Smirking Chimp. BTW, what ever happened to the $100 billion per year budget surplus that the Smirking Chimp inherited from President Clinton?

324 posted on 06/29/2003 12:25:51 PM PDT by MurryMom
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To: DainBramage
Um excuse me, but teachers are private citizens too, and I doubt it takes into account the hours they spend at home grading papers, doing lesson plans, not counting putting up with your snot nosed kid who wont ever bring in his home work.

If its such good pay, give it a try.

You think teachers are the only ones that take work home at night. Give me a break. I am so sick of this "I'm underpaid" BS from teachers. Teachers are one of the most well paid professions and paid well above many, many other professions requiring a college education and long hours.

Time grading papers at home. That's laughable.

325 posted on 06/29/2003 12:33:55 PM PDT by BJungNan
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To: mrfixit514
If the education bashers have made it to this thread it will be about how sorry public schools are and how teachers don't deserve higher salaries.

Allow me a correction...

If critics of the current state of public education have made it to this thread, it will be about how poorly students are performing and how teachers don't deserve higher salaries.

$40,000 to $80,000 a year with three months off, a great pension, full medical, long holidays, in-service days is pretty darn rich, especially when your paying the bill and the person getting this high salary is constantly, endlessly, ceasingly whining about it.

GIVE US A BREAK. Teachers need to shut up, do their jobs, and get results. Then maybe we can stomach teacher's bellyaching about wanting yet more money.

326 posted on 06/29/2003 12:46:35 PM PDT by BJungNan
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To: twigs
I love PA, although like you, I get tired of the teacher situation.

The situation in PA would improve if teachers
- Did not get paid while on strike
-The school districts would implement a strike curriculum whereby students continue with their lesson plans and graduate on schedule.
-School board members whose spouse is a teacher were not allowed to negotiate or vote on salary and benefit issues.

The situation in PA with teachers is horrid.

327 posted on 06/29/2003 12:55:27 PM PDT by BJungNan
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To: MurryMom
coping with smart-mouthed, half-interested punks for 6 hours a day would drive me insane.

Heck, we listen to you and we don't even get paid for it.

328 posted on 06/29/2003 12:57:31 PM PDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs (You're not too smart. I like that in a man.)
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To: MurryMom
LOL! You are either in deep denial or an elected Republican official, or both. Since little Dumbya's economic program went into effect in June 2001, the country has lost over 70,000 jobs per month. During Clinton-Gore prosperity, the country GAINED about 230,000 jobs, on average, every month. These are U.S. Government facts, not my opinion.

Murry Mom,you're an ignoarant slut.The economy was headed for a dive before the election got underway.You don't think 911 didn't have an effect on the economy?It had a devastating effect.All because Jerky boy Clinton had his mind on more "important things".At least Bush has the balls to stand up to the terrorist pukes.You better thank God he's Commander in Chief instead of Girlie-man Gore who would be cowering under the oval office deck in the fetal posistion if he were in charge.

329 posted on 06/29/2003 1:39:00 PM PDT by Uncle Meat
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To: MurryMom
Whatever happened to the promise of the 'most ethical adminisstration, ever'?
Whatever happened to the strikes Clinton ordered in Iraq without congressional approval?
Did anyone protest Clinton over that?
Whatever happened to the campaign fundraising from Whitehouse property?
And yes, there was a controlling legal authority, the FBI.
Or the Secret Service, if you want to use their powers over monetary fraud.

Whatever happened to the illegal sale of F-16 fighter technology to China with Clinton's approval?
Whatever happened to laws governing the legal use of police force when Elian Gonzalez was forced back to Clinton's buddy and fellow compatriot Castro?

By the way, have you ever bothered looking into the supposed smirking chimp's education? He's brighter than anyone your side has fielded.
Babs Striesand couldn't even spell Gephardt's name right(She wrote it as Gebhard).
And she's supposedly the smartest in Hollywood.

So, do you pay enough in taxes?
Or do you want to pay more next year?
330 posted on 06/29/2003 3:25:59 PM PDT by Darksheare ("It's no use, the voices are on MY side.")
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To: BJungNan
Excellent ideas to improve the teacher situation here in PA. Although I hope to be a teacher here in the next year, I don't like what I see as a result of the teacher's unions. I just want to be allowed to teach effectively.
331 posted on 06/30/2003 6:04:10 AM PDT by twigs
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To: JoeSchem

Hmm. Many teachers have also been 4.0 students their entire life as well.


332 posted on 12/11/2004 10:24:08 PM PST by highlyeducated (Interesting reply!)
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To: LanPB01

I really don't know what sort of educators your parents were if they worked 5 hours a day! My mom was a teacher, and she generally worked several hours a day outside of the classroom, and on weekends. My girlfriend is a first year middle school teacher (at abou 37k, if you are curious), and I am pretty sure she is putting in 60+ hour weeks right now, sometimes a lot more than that.


333 posted on 12/11/2004 10:28:19 PM PST by postliberal
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To: Principled

"Poor folks won't be able to attend"

That strikes me as a pretty legitimate objection.


334 posted on 12/11/2004 10:37:12 PM PST by postliberal
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To: postliberal

"and I am pretty sure she is putting in 60+ hour weeks right now"

Baloney.


335 posted on 12/12/2004 12:51:37 PM PST by Max Combined (Clinton is "the notorious Oval Office onanist")
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