We're not rebuilding the corner grocery store lady. It will take years. Look at Japan and Germany.
Read of the chaos in Iraq, of the demostrations against our presence and of the failure to establish a government
Oh, the sky is falling. How many people protested the war (Bush) in the United States? Hundreds of thousands right? How many are protesting us in Iraq? Thousands...maybe. Bush would probably get a better ratio of votes in Iraq.
And the most troublesome aspect, the creation of more terrorists determined to eliminate us. We made a huge mistake.
You may have others fooled, but not me. You are a frigging liberal. The whole arguement you just presented is straight from Pelosi's and Daschle's mouth.
Stop watching CNN and come back to the light!
Definitely. And so are we, and so is the rest of the civilized world.
You must have an IQ approaching Pelosi's.
Wiping out Saddam's regime creates more terrorists? Taking his billions in oil revenue out of the terrorist pipeline creates more terrorists?
Don't bother with your entirely inane pretense that "making them mad" will make them terrorists. They already hated us enough without us knocking off one of their dictators. What makes terrorists is Islamic fascists reproducing. So are you suggesting mass abortion of Islamist pregnancies as the solution?
(At least that would be a step or two up on the intelligence scale from the rest of your arguements).
Well, Linda, perhaps you've not considered just what it might be like to have your mother, or husband or cousins put through a tree shredder feet first. OR, maybe you haven't ever thought about how much "fun" it would be it you were hung by your feet, during menstruation for 3 or 4 days. Just for purposes of humiliation. Your child receiving an acid bath....well, that would be splendid, no??
See, the thing that you aren't recognizing is that "chaos" has existed in Iraq for a long time. Poor infrastructure, food and medicines withheld, malnourished kids, are just a couple of examples of what was there....IN ADDITION to all the torture, fear, and real oppression.
Governments take time. Improvements and repairs take some time. It's been only a couple of months. Do you place such harsh demands on your own productivity levels? If so, you might consider lightening up on yourself.
We have made mistakes only when we tried to ignore or appease terroists and hence showed weakness to an Arabic culture. Which is deadly as we saw on 9/11. Try to have a good weekend. The President and his admin. know what they are doing.
Prairie
How can you possibly think that a people WITHOUT freedom is "better off" than a people WITH freedom?
Read of the chaos in Iraq, of the demostrations against our presence and of the failure to establish a government. And the most troublesome aspect, the creation of more terrorists determined to eliminate us.
Do you think Reagan's success in bringing down the USSR was a good thing? Because after the fall, there was widespread chaos (there still is, in some areas over a decade later), trouble establishing a stable government, the rise of the Russian Maffia, and a dramatic rise in Islamic fundamentalism.
Following your tenuous "logic", the end of the Soviet Union was a bad thing. Do you believe that?
(there Seti, no name calling. how about a response?)
How many Iraqi people do you know? Based on what, exactly, do you "think" this thing that you think?
Read of the chaos in Iraq,
So dictator is better than "chaos"? Are you sure?
of the demostrations against our presence
You mean, by religious extremist minorities trying to stir up trouble? Who cares.
And the most troublesome aspect, the creation of more terrorists determined to eliminate us.
Please list the terrorists you know of which this war "created". (Remember to provide evidence that, if not for the war, these newly-"created" terrorists you are listing, would have been, oh, software engineers or librarians....)
Anyway, if Iraq was a threat to this country either by itself or in the larger context of fighting Islamofascism, then frankly it doesn't matter to me if we "made the Iraqi people better off". Making a bunch of other people better off was never going to be anything more than a happy by-product of this war in the first place; if we haven't done it, that doesn't bother me. Not that you've shown that we haven't done it, or anything.