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To: Howlin
Are you perfectly fine with past contestants saying that Ruben was going to win because that's who the producers wanted?

Yup, I am. It's published knowledge that Simon, at least, was really hoping for a Clay - Ruben showdown at the end. That doesn't mean he rigged the voting, or did anything besides slanting his own on-air judging (which IMHO has always been obvious). Simon wanted a lot of things that didn't happen, either, such as getting rid of Josh a LOT sooner, and getting certain people voted through to later rounds last year that got voted off.

I'll also put this question out there: Given that this was the final episode of the season, why should they care less whether Clay or Ruben won? Especially when they'd already BOTH been given record contracts and there is obviously an equally large market out there willing to buy each singer's albums?

851 posted on 05/21/2003 8:48:47 PM PDT by Timesink
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To: Timesink
T, you know exactly what has gone on over the past months with the blacks being voted off the show, or tossed off and all the uproar that caused.

And I believe that's why they continued to shove Ruben in people's faces until the very end.

If you want to say that because I believe they were blackmailed into pushing Ruben racist, fine by me. I see no difference in what they did than in what Jesse Jackson did to NASCAR.
858 posted on 05/21/2003 8:52:33 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Timesink
Afraid they might offend blacks if another white won?
882 posted on 05/21/2003 9:05:39 PM PDT by ethical
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