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To: cincinnati65
I repeat, why is it racist to say that Ruben won because AI decided in the beginning that a black guy was going to win?

Have you missed all the past contestants who have been all over TV, saying that Ruben WAS going to win because that's who AI wanted to win and who they were pushing?

Do you know that Ruben is the ONLY one of the contestants who was in the bottom 3 that didn't lose?

And Clay was NEVER in the bottom 3.
571 posted on 05/21/2003 7:28:35 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin
Do you know if we can pre-order Clay's CD on Amazon.com?
575 posted on 05/21/2003 7:29:45 PM PDT by Carolinamom
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To: Howlin
It all boiled down to the judges and fox wanted Rooooben and the guy with the best voice lost. Actually like I said before, Kimberly Locke and Clay should have been in finals if we were suspose to be finding the best voice. I just think the guy won because the judges and fox saw to it Too bad cause I think they hurt the show in the long run
591 posted on 05/21/2003 7:32:51 PM PDT by denco
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To: Howlin
"why is it racist to say that Ruben won because AI decided in the beginning that a black guy was going to win?"

I don't know. Maybe it's because it makes you sound like you think that Rueben is a talentless hack who only won the competition because of his affirmative action demographic.

By centering on race, you ignore the numerous other factors that played into the voting, and belittle the fact that Rueben was a talented young man, who was just as capable of winning this competition as Clay.

598 posted on 05/21/2003 7:34:29 PM PDT by cincinnati65
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To: Howlin
Have you missed all the past contestants who have been all over TV, saying that Ruben WAS going to win because that's who AI wanted to win and who they were pushing?

But were they pushing Ruben just because he was black? I agree that's who the judges wanted to win, but I don't think it was because he was black so much as he was more marketable. I know a lot of people who thought Clay would make a great broadway star, but weren't sure how to market him as a 'pop' star. I think it's unfortunate because this is basically a singing competition, and the best singer, in my opinion, didn't win.

Do you know that Ruben is the ONLY one of the contestants who was in the bottom 3 that didn't lose? And Clay was NEVER in the bottom 3.

Clay was actually voted off, but ironically the judges brought him back as a wildcard!

612 posted on 05/21/2003 7:38:07 PM PDT by ejdrapes
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