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Cuba, where seats cost 12 cents and free agency is unheard of
The Seattle Times ^ | Tuesday, May 13, 2003 | Steve Cummings

Posted on 05/13/2003 4:41:24 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez

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1 posted on 05/13/2003 4:41:24 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez
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To: William Wallace; Prodigal Daughter; afraidfortherepublic; JohnHuang2; Budge; A Citizen Reporter; ...
"Most of our group traveled from Vancouver, B.C. — you still can't travel from the U.S. directly to Cuba because of the embargo — to see six games in six stadiums in one week. As a special-interest group, we were ushered without ceremony to our section behind home plate."

What "embargo"?

2 posted on 05/13/2003 4:42:48 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Most goldminers used to blame stuff on the ass.)
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To: hattend
Hey...thought you might like this.
3 posted on 05/13/2003 4:43:33 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Most goldminers used to blame stuff on the ass.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
People in Seattle don't know what is happening east of the Rockies. Don't sweat this.
4 posted on 05/13/2003 4:44:21 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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The government is made up of murderers, but unlike Iraq under Saddam you dont't get shot for losing a game.
5 posted on 05/13/2003 4:48:16 PM PDT by catonsville (cx;)
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To: catonsville
They don't shoot you until you try to sneak out on a raft.
6 posted on 05/13/2003 4:49:31 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Most goldminers used to blame stuff on the ass.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
800 miles from east to west ? ? ?
7 posted on 05/13/2003 4:52:34 PM PDT by f.Christian (( I'm sure we could mount a "pay f.christian off" fund to get you to leave ))
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Luis, please don't take this wrong, but I cannot get interested in baseball, and I have really tried.

I have come to the conclusion that a society which is fixated on baseball has few other venues of entertainment. Cuba is a prime example.

I know this is heretical on my part. This is one of the few things with which I disagree with the President. I just can't get interested in it. Probably it is some sort of genetic failing.

I am glad baseball exists. I hope Cuba one day can send her players as free agents to the USA, without the necessity of them requesting asylum. I hope one day everyone in Cuba can afford a beer at a ballpark.

But I just can't get interested in baseball. Sigh.

8 posted on 05/13/2003 4:54:19 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
Breaking Sports News:

U.S. federal judge says baseball must
give 90 days' notice for Expos move

RONALD BLUM
Tuesday, May 13, 2003

(AP) - A federal judge ordered baseball to give her court 90 days' notice of any attempt to move or sell the Montreal Expos.

Judge Ursula Ungaro-Benages of the U.S. District Court in Miami issued the order as part of a lawsuit by former limited partners of the Expos against former controlling owner Jeffrey Loria, commissioner Bud Selig and several other baseball officials. Northern Virginia, Portland, Ore., and Washington, D.C., are trying to land the Expos, and baseball's committee on the Expos meets Wednesday to prepare a briefing for the meeting of all owners the following day.

Bob DuPuy, baseball's chief operating officer, said Tuesday that no major decisions on the Expos will be made at this week's meetings, but that owners will vote Thursday on the proposed sale of the Anaheim Angels from The Walt Disney Co. to Arturo Moreno, a deal worth about $185 million US.

Baseball officials have said they hope to have a decision on the Expos by the all-star break in mid-July.

In the Expos' lawsuit, baseball offered to give the court 60 days' notice. Ungaro-Benages, ruling the time difference "irrelevant," sided with the limited partners Friday.

Samuel Minzberg, a lawyer for the plaintiffs who represents the Bronfman family, said the decision "means the Expos cannot be sold or moved in the middle of the night to another city without the court first holding a hearing to ensure that justice is served."

Ungaro-Benages put the lawsuit on hold in November, saying it first had to be heard in arbitration. As part of her ruling last week, Ungaro-Benages denied the request by the limited partners to widen discovery beyond the limited amount ordered by the arbitration panel.

"We offered 60 days. They wanted 90, so we'll give them 90," DuPuy said. "This was the court clearly trying to say they were trying to game the system. They were denied what they wanted in discovery in arbitration, and they were denied what they wanted in discovery by the court. Their case remains frivolous and it will not impede us in any way."

The Expos were sold to the other 29 teams by Loria for $120 million before the 2002 season, and Loria bought the Florida Marlins from John Henry, who headed the group that purchased the Boston Red Sox.

The Expos' limited partners sued in July, claiming Loria and Marlins president David Samson conspired with baseball officials to dilute the minority partners' share of the team from 76 per cent to six-to-seven per cent and never intended to keep the franchise in Montreal.

To raise revenue, baseball moved 22 of Montreal's home games this year to San Juan, Puerto Rico, where the team averaged 14,282 for 10 games in April. The Expos have averaged 10,613 in Montreal, leaving their "home" average at 12,281, the second-lowest in the major leagues, ahead of Tampa Bay (12,238).

I hope MLB dumps Canada permanently in favor of Puerto Rico.

9 posted on 05/13/2003 4:54:31 PM PDT by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: Miss Marple
My dad new everything about baseball.

He took me to the old 'league park' where we lived in Cleveland and told me the legends played there.

It looked liked a 'little' league park ...

"if you caught the ball outta the park they would let you into the game if you gave them the ball back" ...



I will never forget that ...

before television --- 'sound' movies !

My aunt knew all the players on the team for fifty years ...

some personally --- one lived on her street !
10 posted on 05/13/2003 5:07:01 PM PDT by f.Christian (( I'm sure we could mount a "pay f.christian off" fund to get you to leave ))
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To: Miss Marple
Don't beat yourself up about it, lady detective. You are hardly alone in that regard. My dear late father whom I adored was a Cubs fan---though he never lived anywhere near Illinois--- I never understood why</>. Baseball is soo dull anyway, but why choose a team that's famous for losing to root for?
11 posted on 05/13/2003 5:07:38 PM PDT by stands2reason
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To: Luis Gonzalez
What "embargo"?

Yes, as people who bitch about the U.S. embargo being responsible for all the poverty of Cuba conveniently fail to remember, Cuba has "free" trade with the rest of the globe. The reason that the Cuban economy is the way it is is Castro.
12 posted on 05/13/2003 5:54:00 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: Miss Marple
But I just can't get interested in baseball. Sigh.

It's not exactly a character flaw, but we still love you.
13 posted on 05/13/2003 5:57:37 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: Luis Gonzalez
"las liguas majores"

Mr. Cummings, in addition to being an astute observer of the Cuban scene, also possesses an impressive command of the Spanish language. < / sarcasm >
14 posted on 05/13/2003 6:57:40 PM PDT by T. Buzzard Trueblood
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Did you see where the cowboy kicked the scummies outta DC and the UN?

I always loved cowboys!

Probably the same scummies that held Juan & Elian prisoner in the US of A.

DC wasn't it?

15 posted on 05/13/2003 7:01:55 PM PDT by BARLF
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To: T. Buzzard Trueblood
BWAHAHAHA!!!

I missed that!!!
16 posted on 05/13/2003 7:05:07 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Most goldminers used to blame stuff on the ass.)
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To: BARLF
Sure was!
17 posted on 05/13/2003 7:05:27 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Most goldminers used to blame stuff on the ass.)
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To: f.Christian
Fletcher...those are very precious memories.

Thanks for sharing them with us.
18 posted on 05/13/2003 7:08:28 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Most goldminers used to blame stuff on the ass.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
I loved it, ab so lutely loved that news!

Score one for Elian.

19 posted on 05/13/2003 7:08:52 PM PDT by BARLF
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To: Luis Gonzalez
new ... knew --- hmmmm ... strike one !
20 posted on 05/13/2003 8:30:12 PM PDT by f.Christian (( I'm sure we could mount a "pay f.christian off" fund to get you to leave ))
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