[John O]

What makes a group "large enough." What authority does that give them? Sorry, but the truth is our government obtained its authority, and the people and states were bound to it.

And if the government says that all your earnings and your children are to be confiscated and you are to be sold into chattel slavery well then so be it because after all, we are bound to the government.

This is exactly what the south was trying to avoid. The end of states rights, the end of people being able to decide for themselves how to live without big brother looking over their shoulder.

With the exception of national defense and perhaps foreign relations, everything the government touches turns to crap.

I still think if a state decides to leave the union they should have the freedom to do so. Now, instead of having one sub-race being held in slavery we had the entire south held in slavery.

[WhiskeyPapa]

And if the government says that all your earnings and your children are to be confiscated and you are to be sold into chattel slavery well then so be it because after all, we are bound to the government.

This is exactly what the south was trying to avoid.

Not counting the four million people already in chattel slavery that lived in the south.

Walt

[Huck]

And if the government says that all your earnings and your children are to be confiscated and you are to be sold I still think if a state decides to leave the union they should have the freedom to do so. Now, instead of having one sub-race being held in slavery we had the entire south held in slavery.

Sub-race?