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The awful truth: arrogant America got it right (Aussie lib on Iraq, "I was wrong")
The Age (Australia) ^ | 11 May 2003 | Joanna Murray-Smith

Posted on 05/10/2003 11:16:11 AM PDT by Stultis

The awful truth: arrogant America got it right
By Joanna Murray-Smith
May 11 2003

Last week, George Bush appeared on the front page of the International Herald Tribune in military gear. Earlier, he had made an appearance on the USS Abraham Lincoln, which had been deftly positioned for the cameras with the sea in the background, disguising its actual position (off San Diego).

What this told us, not that any of us needed it explained, is that US presidents get away with presenting themselves in the vernacular of Hollywood. The public not only gets, but seems to like, politics with production design.

Subsequently, an opinion writer in the Tribune noted that British journalists who witnessed this absurdity had remarked that if Tony Blair had tried such a stunt "the press would have demanded to know how many hospital beds could have been provided for the cost of the jet fuel". In this regard, Australians owe more to their British antecedents than their American amigos. We don't accept pretension or phoniness in our politicians, even in the pursuit of national pride.

One of the remarkable and fascinating things about living in Europe, as I have for the past five months, is to observe at close hand the vast cultural and political differences that coexist within remarkable physical proximity - a hallmark of the northern hemisphere. America juggles the gravitas of power with the comic absurdity of show-biz. England comes to the party, but laughs behind its back. In Italy, France, Germany, London, they shake their heads in wonder at the world's most powerful democracy's intolerance of criticism, even (and perhaps especially) from within its own borders.

Here, in Italy, where I am living, the people I meet don't talk about the war. In social situations, we all laugh about Bush and his marionette vacant-eyed performances, John Wayne meets Ned Flanders (unlike our own Mr Burns), but no one can quite foresee the opinion of others about the war. Suddenly the neat divisions of pro and anti, liberal and conservative, once written in neat ink, havebeen smudged by reality's thumb-print. The simpleself-definitions of the past don't work in the same way.

Two months ago, one could readily announce one's participation in an anti-war march. Now, many of us are caught in a grey blur. The black and white feelings of recent months have become smudged in the aftermath of what your everyday ingenue (Holly Golightly) might describe as a Very Confusing War. Ideological convictions began to founder at the sight of rejoicing Iraqis. People tried to find nice ways of saying that the casualties were few enough to warrant the outcome. And liberals like me had to ask themselves if in the end American hypocrisy mattered enough to outweigh the actual result - if confused and cynical motives (oil, presidencies, imperialism etc) could diminish the simple humanitarian triumph.

My generation grew up inside the recriminations about Vietnam, in part through the movies. We were raised inside a distrust of political administrations' motivations, their propensity for accurate judgement, for justice. We had engendered within us a pervasive sense of the barbarity of war that was (and is) not only intellectual, but emotional.

No one likes to U-turn in public... on wives or husbands, political beliefs, dinner party opinions. We like to state our case and stay true, fearful that any re-evaluation will make us look like intellectual sissies. It can't have been easy for the communists of the 1950s to watch the tanks roll into Hungary and see that juggernaut crush their belief system - a belief system not only at the core of their political lives, but for many, their entire lives. Hopefulness, conviction, passion, then, as now, must sometimes be sacrificed to reality's infuriating complexity - but it sometimes takes courage to admit it.

Many of us from other Western countries, Australia included, have an entrenched view of America that oscillates between fury and hilarity at its blinkered patriotism, at its presidential high-jinks with Bush as cowboy, complete with wardrobe, at its growing Fox and Friends right-wing self-congratulation and its seeming inability or refusal to search its own soul.

And yet, the World's Policeman did something no one else could or would do. It could have all gone horribly wrong, but it didn't. Civilians died, young men and women paid all kinds of prices and both Western and Iraqi children who lost fathers or homes have had their personal maps drastically redrawn by the hand of fate. But the fear and the torture is over. America, in all its infuriating arrogance, acted. Not so long ago, I dreaded this. And now, I have to admit, I was wrong.

This story was found at: http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/05/10/1052280480071.html


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aftermathanalysis; antiamericanism; australia; iraqifreedom; worldopinion
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To: Stultis
Well she was wrong about many things, one is that the PRESIDENT didn't by proclamation determine the direction and speed of the wind that day. In order to land aircraft on a CARRIER the carrier must provide enough WIND to land. Which means the carrier is at the mercy of the wind speed and direction in order to land aircraft on it's deck. I guess she thinks we can land aircraft on a carrier while it is moored and that it just LOOKED better because they were at sea. In any case I do appreciate her BITTER but recognized mea culpa.
41 posted on 05/10/2003 2:07:06 PM PDT by PISANO
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To: Stultis
Dreck and remorseless remorse aside, I like seeing Fox & Friends becoming an icon. It shows that my comfortable locksteppedness isn't a one-man parade. Cheers, mates, and especially you, Rupert Murdoch and you, Roger Ailes!
42 posted on 05/10/2003 2:07:36 PM PDT by gcruse (Vice is nice, but virtue can hurt you. --Bill Bennett)
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To: TomB
But they weren't within sight of land and besides, the Commander in Chief wanted to express his apprecation on behalf of the American people and spend the night with them before the carrier docked the next day. Absolutely nothing wrong with that. Demonrats have YET AGAIN shown us how miserable, malicious, and petty they are that's all.

It's ok, let the jackasses whine and rant all they want now. We'll remember EVERYTHING in November.
43 posted on 05/10/2003 2:13:45 PM PDT by Publicus
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To: Stultis
In Italy, France, Germany, London, they shake their heads in wonder at the world's most powerful democracy's intolerance of criticism, even (and perhaps especially) from within its own borders.

I'm amazed by the presumptious nature of Euro-weenies thinking that their poo-pooing of how the most successful and powerful democracy in the world operates somehow makes them more correct and sophisticated.

Weren't these the same nitwits that were poo-pooing our criticisms of Clinton for being Puritanistic and unworldly?

It can't have been easy for the communists of the 1950s to watch the tanks roll into Hungary and see that juggernaut crush their belief system - a belief system not only at the core of their political lives, but for many, their entire lives. Hopefulness, conviction, passion, then, as now, must sometimes be sacrificed to reality's infuriating complexity - but it sometimes takes courage to admit it.

Yes, the disciples of Gramsci, or Engels and Marx, who have sworn their lives to indoctrinating future generations are having a difficult time of it. Especially as our "John Wayne" "cowboy, complete with wardrobe," Presidents like Reagan and Bush keep shining the light on fail, evil political systems and defeating them.

Perhaps instead, it is the left's "inability or refusal to search its own soul" and recognize that it's "blinkered" anti-Americanism, with veiled calls for greater socialism and the rebellion of the proletariat, will not achieve the self-discipline, self-restraint and moral strength we have lost to the ideology of the counter-culture baby boomer's irresponsible individualism and pleasuremongering?

My generation grew up inside the recriminations about Vietnam, in part through the movies. We were raised inside a distrust of political administrations' motivations, their propensity for accurate judgement, for justice. We had engendered within us a pervasive sense of the barbarity of war that was (and is) not only intellectual, but emotional.

Somehow, I don't think the security of our country is found in a nostalgia for flower painted VW's.

44 posted on 05/10/2003 2:14:43 PM PDT by optimistically_conservative
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To: Consort
Good points! Peace is an ideal that can be achieved as a state of being via superior armed forces and a moral purpose directing them.
45 posted on 05/10/2003 2:16:01 PM PDT by Publicus
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To: Ligeia
"Great cartoon!!! Had a good laugh on this one
Smushed 'em flat, that he did. I loved it, too."


Actually you are wrong. We will see how smushed flat they become in November 2004. Until then, they are just going to continue to shreik, whine, complain, and lie.
46 posted on 05/10/2003 2:21:06 PM PDT by Publicus
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To: Stultis
They just don't get it. Cowboys are the good guys. We played Cowboys & Baathists & the Cowboys won.
47 posted on 05/10/2003 2:23:18 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: Stultis
he (President Bush) had made an appearance on the USS Abraham Lincoln, which had been deftly positioned for the cameras with the sea in the background, disguising its actual position (off San Diego).

Whenever landing an airplane, as much as is possible, one lands (and takes off) into the wind. This lowers the ground speed in relation to the airspeed. This would be more important on an aircraft carrier than anywhere else.

The President of the United States, who is also The Commander in Chief of the Armed forces, was on board that airplane. I would pretty much bet my house and everything I own, that the USS Lincoln's nose was straight into the wind no matter what direction that would be.

I am sure that when Joanna Murray-Smith made her story up she thought she was being, oh so clever, but it's just a lie, plain and simple.

48 posted on 05/10/2003 2:28:56 PM PDT by RJL
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To: Stultis
We don't accept pretension or phoniness in our politicians, even in the pursuit of national pride.

Maybe this attitude reflects the fact you have so little to be proud of.

49 posted on 05/10/2003 2:30:53 PM PDT by What Is Ain't
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To: TomB
I read that they were 30 miles out. Which is close, but not within camera range.
50 posted on 05/10/2003 2:48:16 PM PDT by Yeti
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To: marron
"I only wonder why it is that the intellectual elite are always confused, and always way behind the curve on these things?"

The TRUE intellectual elite (Kissinger, Cheney, Krystol, O'Reilly, yourself and millions of others) is not confused at all. Perhaps you meant the leftist/liberal self proclaimed elite? Because they are ALWAYS confused and ALWAYS miscalculate because they ultimately despise your happiness and the freedom you enjoy because they feel you and your freedom threatens their self-importance and the fantasy world they live in.

A lot of American academics have lost their credibility because the LIES they have been spewing in the privacy of the classroom to inexperienced youngsters all these years is becoming exposed. These so called "teachers" and "professors" are in fact nohing more than charlatans and quacks spending time and YOUR taxdollars enriching themselves and indoctrinating children and young, inexperienced adults with anti-American slogans, failed political and economic theories, and immorality.

Ironically, American culture is indeed so dynamic and pervasive that we even export Anti-American slogans and platitudes which are mindlessly lapped up without independent examination and regurgitated by other leftist "intellectuals" in some other countries.

You don't need to take my word for it, you can independently verify this for yourself by comparing the anti-American rantings of "professors" from Berkely, Cornell, etc. in the 1960's to the leftists in Europe, and the rest of the world since the 1970's and you will see they parrot the anti-Americanism that was first preached in the US. (To this day, these spineless rodents add absolutely nothing to society and simply enjoy the fact they collect generous pay and benefits packages to essentially lord over impressionable youngsters who are also vulnerable to their grades)
51 posted on 05/10/2003 2:51:19 PM PDT by Publicus
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To: Mr. Mojo
Because she supports the demonrats and will say and do anything to suport them and their sick agendas and rant against morality, Republicans, conservatives, etc.
52 posted on 05/10/2003 2:53:55 PM PDT by Publicus
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To: Pikachu_Dad
Useless apology. In fact, she just used the space to throw some childish insults against our President and against our nation's defensive measures against those who are also against us and seek to harm us.
53 posted on 05/10/2003 2:56:08 PM PDT by Publicus
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To: Ligeia
Until then, the demonrats are just going to continue to shreik, whine, complain, lie, and help Al-Qaeda by undermining us from within.
54 posted on 05/10/2003 3:00:59 PM PDT by Publicus
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To: Stultis
She is just another person who will never learn or accept the American spirit! Go ahead and continue your anti-American attitude because we both know that we are a nation who other's turn to in time of need.....I hope a dingo bites her in the a$$!
55 posted on 05/10/2003 3:09:32 PM PDT by Arpege92
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To: Stultis
***...at its growing Fox and Friends right-wing self-congratulation and its seeming inability or refusal to search its own soul. ***

Refusal to search our own souls? How does this twinkie think we got to be conservates if we hadn't searched our souls and found the truth?





56 posted on 05/10/2003 3:11:30 PM PDT by kitkat
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To: kitkat
"conservates" is a new word for "conservatives." I know because I just made it up.
57 posted on 05/10/2003 3:13:08 PM PDT by kitkat
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To: Stultis
The awful truth: arrogant America got it right

The Obvious Truth: Arrogant Lefties got it Wrong (again)
58 posted on 05/10/2003 3:23:54 PM PDT by polemikos
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To: Stultis
The writer is still wrong with her lame criticisms of our leader. I like Aussies, especially the ones that came to the party and really helped. Aussie libs are another matter. They rant and rave with nary a coherent argument, just like our resident libs.
59 posted on 05/10/2003 3:29:33 PM PDT by Paulus Invictus (ax accountant)
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To: marron
The Viet Nam debacle was started by RATS, micro-managed stupidly by RATs, lost by RATs and leftist rioters, the commie media and finally deserted by Tricky Dick. If she got all her Viet Nam info from films, then her lack of brains is made evident.
60 posted on 05/10/2003 3:37:07 PM PDT by Paulus Invictus (ax accountant)
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