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GOP Chairman Racicot Defends Meeting with ‘Gay’ Pressure Group [Alienating the GOP base]
www.cwfa.org ^ | Robert Knight

Posted on 05/09/2003 9:54:18 AM PDT by Polycarp

GOP Chairman Racicot Defends Meeting with ‘Gay’ Pressure Group     5/7/2003
By Robert Knight

In Hourlong Session, Discusses Homosexual Agenda with 11 Pro-Family Leaders

WASHINGTON, D.C. — In a meeting Tuesday with 11 pro-family leaders at GOP headquarters, Republican Party Committee Chairman Marc Racicot defended his March 7 meeting with the Human Rights Campaign (HRC), the largest homosexual pressure group.

“I meet with everybody,” Racicot answered in response to a question from American Family Association (AFA) President Don Wildmon, who had called Tuesday’s meeting. Racicot said he was trying to execute “the directive that the president gave me … to carry our message, our principles, to everybody and anybody.”

Asked if President Bush had asked him to meet with HRC, Racicot replied, “no,” and said that the meeting was just part of “outreach.” He reiterated that he would meet with “anybody.”

Major groups attend

I attended the meeting, representing the Culture and Family Institute and Concerned Women for America. Also attending were American Values President Gary Bauer; Family Research Council President Ken Connor; Dr. Richard Land, president of the Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission of the Southern Baptist Convention; Life Issues Institute President John Willke; Rick Scarborough, national co-chairman of Vision America; Traditional Values Coalition President Lou Sheldon; Free Congress Foundation President Paul Weyrich; Inspiration Network Vice President Ron Shuping; Alabama Policy Institute President Gary Palmer; and Home School Legal Defense Association Chairman Michael Farris.

In response to Racicot’s assertion that he would meet with any group, Don Wildmon asked him if he would meet with the North American Man-Boy Love Association (NAMBLA), explaining that NAMBLA advocates sex between men and boys. Racicot said he would not meet with such an “aberrant” group and that he had himself prosecuted child molesters.

Gary Bauer clarified that the point was not to compare homosexuals with NAMBLA members but that organizations draw a line somewhere, knowing that merely meeting with a group conveys some acceptance.

Later, Lou Sheldon brought up the agenda of the Gay, Lesbian and Straight Education Network (GLSEN), and Racicot said he had not heard of that group. (GLSEN is the leading proponent of pro-homosexual and pro-“transgender” programs in schools, including elementary schools.)

Racicot was pressed on whether it was proper to meet with groups organized around advancing “aberrant” sexual behavior. He was asked directly whether it was normal for two men to have sex. Racicot replied, “No, of course not.” He also acknowledged being “naïve” about how “gay” activists might use the meeting with him to advance their cause.

Criticized on Santorum

Asked why GOP officials did not come to the support of Sen. Rick Santorum when he was under attack for defending the Texas sodomy law, Racicot said, “We did, in fact, talk to reporters.” He offered to bring to the meeting the staffer who handled the calls. Asked if the group could see the press releases that his office issued defending Santorum, Racicot replied that his office did not issue any.

When pressed by Gary Bauer that his meeting with HRC “elevated them. You legitimized them,” Racicot said, “I would agree that is a matter of pause to me. I confess to some naivete.”

Among HRC’s goals are: the legalization of “gay marriage”; the promotion of homosexual parenting and adoption; advancing “transgender” rights, including support for taxpayer-funded transsexual “sex-change” operations; national pro-homosexual employment legislation; national pro-“gay” “hate crimes” legislation; allowing open homosexuals in the military; and expanding homosexuality- and “transgender”-affirming programs in schools.

HRC has been a leader in denouncing religious conservative groups that oppose homosexuality, calling them “extremists.”

Bauer: lot of work to do

On Wednesday, Bauer told Culture & Family Report, “My sense after the meeting was that for reasons I don’t fully understand, we still have a lot of work to do educating the Republican establishment about why this matters.”

Racicot said his own approach to homosexual issues was “a lifelong evolution.”

“There are people I’ve met who are gay — thoughtful people. I know of families with children — some of them are gay. They have a right to be involved in the public discussion," he said.

Racicot also said he didn’t know what caused homosexuality, or how much was “genetic or environment.” He was told that no credible science has found a genetic link to homosexuality.

He noted that he had incurred the wrath of “gay” activists when he had opposed homosexual “marriage” while governor of Montana, but then defended his own issuance of an order adding “sexual orientation” to the state’s nondiscrimination code for state employees. When pressed, he said he would not support a law that imposed it on private employers.

Farris: not about civil rights

Michael Farris, who noted that he had helped write briefs in the Bowers v. Hardwick case (1986) and the current Lawrence v. Texas sodomy case before the Supreme Court, told Racicot that he opposed the Montana executive order, which he saw as part of a larger agenda to undermine basic freedoms of people to disagree with homosexuality. He said that as a free people, Americans have had the right to hire and fire at will except for a “few key things,” referring to civil rights exceptions. Those laws restrict freedom, so they had to be grounded in ample justification, which they were, he said. But sexual behavior has moral implications, so it is not like race.

Racicot replied to the entire group, “You need to be straight up with it. You want a law that says you can dismiss someone solely on the basis of homosexuality.” Various members of the group said no, they did not want to add laws targeting homosexuals or anyone else, but felt that special rights should not be carved out based on sexual behavior.

I told Mr. Racicot that pro-family Americans viewed the homosexual activist agenda as a grave threat for two reasons: First, homosexuality hurts those who practice it. I recited the many health risks and noted the recent San Francisco Health Department report showing a fourfold rise in syphilis among “gay” men, a doubling of the gonorrhea rate, and many other sexually transmitted diseases specific to homosexual conduct. A new, antibiotic-resistant staph infection is now turning up in “gay” communities in Los Angeles, New York and Chicago. Pro-family advocates see it as an act of compassion to steer people away from the behavior, not toward it. HRC and groups like GLSEN want children as young as kindergarten to be taught that homosexuality is normal and healthy, despite well-documented medical evidence.

The second reason to oppose homosexual activism, I said, is the threat it poses to freedom. I noted that in Canada, under that country’s hate crime laws, broadcasters are forbidden to criticize homosexuality under penalty of loss of license, and that people who have placed newspaper ads with Bible verses on homosexuality have been hauled before officials and threatened with fines. New York officials, citing the city’s “hate crimes” law, pressured a billboard company to remove a pastor’s billboard message with a Bible verse about homosexuality. As “gay” rights policies and laws advance, I said, people who favor marriage and family and who oppose homosexuality are being harassed — not homosexuals. Furthermore, many people have overcome homosexuality and are living better, richer lives.

Alienating the GOP base

Racicot listened intently during this overview. After Richard Land noted that the GOP’s flirting with homosexual activism “divides its friends and unites its enemies,” Racicot said, “I’m not as suspicious as you. I don’t have the agenda you think I have.”

John Willke told him that the GOP needs Democratic votes to win elections, and that many Democats have two “hot-button family issues — abortion and homosexuality.”

Paul Weyrich said that “we want a clear, strong, unequivocal statement” from the GOP that homosexuality is immoral. Wildmon of AFA also said a statement was needed, and that he was tired of watching the GOP drift in the same direction as the Democrats on the issue of homosexual activism. He noted that if the GOP continued on this path, “we would walk.” He explained that many pro-family voters would not necessarily vote Democratic instead, but just stay home. Gary Palmer noted that millions of evangelical Christians did not vote in the 2000 election, that a vast majority of evangelicals who did vote pulled the GOP lever, and that the razor-thin GOP presidential victory might not be repeated in 2004 if the GOP alienates even more Christians.

Racicot was asked if he would meet with a group of former homosexuals hosted by Parents and Friends of Ex-Gays and Gays. He said, “Of course.”

He denied using the term “gay-baiting,” which The Washington Blade, a homosexual newspaper, referenced this way in a March 21 account of the HRC meeting: “Racicot said he would not tolerate ‘gay-baiting’ ads in Republican election campaigns under his control.”

Asked if his reported comments meant that Republicans could not oppose homosexuality in any campaign, such as Georgia GOP challenger Saxby Chambliss’ ads depicting then-Sen. Max Cleland (D) as siding with homosexual activists against the Boy Scouts, Racicot replied that he backed the Boy Scouts’ stand. He cited as objectionable a Democratic TV ad used in a Montana campaign against the GOP candidate that used innuendo to imply that the candidate had a “gay” background.

Lou Sheldon noted that, in 2000, liberals made an effort to strip the GOP platform of some pro-family planks, and he asked Racicot if there was any effort underway to do the same in the upcoming platform battle. Racicot replied that he had not heard of any such effort and would not support it in any case.


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To: BibChr
Your comments are valid. I'm trying to balance my views on job discrimination and life discrimination with my views on politics, voting, and political parties. It's really difficult to do.

When people group together, then they've done so because of some focus that's important to them. To the extent that Log Cabin Republicans are grouped together to prevent job/life discrimination, then I'm inclined to live and let live. To the extent that they wish to advocate homosexuality in any form, then I disagree with them.

Because I think any American should be granted a right to vote, to peaceably assemble, to not be deprived of life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness without due process, then I think it applies as well to homosexuals.

I think it's sad that their behavior is killing them. I wish they'd change. But I can't make a logical leap from there to denying them their political rights.

Maybe there's a good reason to begin a Christian Conservative Party.

21 posted on 05/09/2003 11:24:17 AM PDT by RockBassCreek
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To: RockBassCreek
Maybe there's a good reason to begin a Christian Conservative Party.
Isn't that basically what the Right to Life Party is all about?
22 posted on 05/09/2003 11:45:20 AM PDT by eastsider
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To: RockBassCreek
Wel, but who's denying them their rights? Look two scenarios.

First scenario: A guy comes, wants to work with the GOP, wants to distribute pamphlets, whatever. Oh, and he's homosexual, he doesn't mention.

No problem.

Second scenario: guy forms group of [enter sexual deviancy here], that is THE ONE DEFINING FACTOR of the group, and wants recognition. To recognize is to validate.

Problem.

Further, do you think people have the right to hire or not hire who they want? I do. To me, that's Freedom 101, right of association. I think if someone doesn't want to hire homely, bald guys with glasses (me), he has that right. His loss, his right. I think he also has a right not to hire homosexuals.

Or would you require Christian bookstores and churches to hire homosexuals?

More grist for the mill.

Dan
23 posted on 05/09/2003 11:46:09 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: Polycarp
I told Mr. Racicot that pro-family Americans viewed the homosexual activist agenda as a grave threat for two reasons: First, homosexuality hurts those who practice it.... health risks ... sexually transmitted diseases specific to homosexual conduct ...
The phrase "sexually transmitted diseases specific to homosexual conduct" really caught my attention, but without supporting evidence, it seems to be a reach. It's common sense that a greater incidence of STD's accompanies a greater incidence of promiscuity, but I have never heard of an STD that specifically targets same-sex promiscuity.
25 posted on 05/09/2003 12:25:18 PM PDT by eastsider
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To: Emmylou
Ma'am, if you're a poor reader or unfamiliar with logical progressions, that isn't my issue.

Meanwhile, I'll continue to affirm (as you correctely quoted, before going off on your own tangent) the PARALLEL between one group wanting acceptance of its immoral, destructive, sexual deviation with the other group who wants acceptance of its immoral, destructive, sexual deviation.

Dan
26 posted on 05/09/2003 12:26:51 PM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: BibChr
Private individuals and private associations have the right to hire and fire according to their own rules. However, individuals fired have the right to sue anyone who violates contractual agreements with them, whether written or implied.

If I'm a church and I hire someone, then I'm free to fire them according to my doctrinal/conscientious dictates. But, if I've signed a written contract with them, then I'm also bound by that contract. People have that expectation of a church, because churches are know to have specific beliefs and restrictions.

However, if I'm an individual or private business, and I simply hire someone with no in-brief about requirements, then it's not unreasonable for someone to expect fair treatment from me. They should have redress for arbitrary firings. It would be arbitrary for me to bring up unspoken requirements or matters of conscience after the fact.

That employer should owe something like the cost of seeking new employment and the difference between unemployment and the old salary.

I don't think there should be punitive damages for such things. The bottom line is, if there are standards of employment, then they should be above board. Preferably, they should be written. Then if a person signs them knowing their in violation they have only themselves to blame. Likewise, it serves as a red flag for some folks not to work with certain employers.

Race should be handled differently than sexual preference because a person's race is entirely out of their control. I support government laws prohibiting racial discrimination.

27 posted on 05/09/2003 12:50:16 PM PDT by RockBassCreek
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To: Polycarp
Racicot is an S.O.B. First he refused to run against Max Baucus, against whom he would have won a large victory and a desperately needed extra Senate seat for the GOP. Then he had to go coddle to the homos. I hope Bush is putting him as a "special adviser" to the 2004 campaign as a demotion. This guy is a real pussy.
28 posted on 05/09/2003 1:17:36 PM PDT by montag813
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To: Polycarp
Is Racicot as stupid as he wants us to believe??

If so, what in tarnation is he doing at RNC Chair???
29 posted on 05/09/2003 2:06:47 PM PDT by ninenot (H&K: Problem-Solver)
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To: eastsider
STD that specifically targets same-sex promiscuity.

There are specific types/anatomic locations of STDs that, though not wholly unknown among promiscuous heterosexual individuals, nonetheless are considered the result of homosexual behavior, including Amoebic bowel disease, cytomegalovirus, shigellosis, giardiasis, Anal warts, herpes of the throat, urethritis from Chlamidia spp., mycoplasma spp.,Ureaplasma urealyticum and Trichomonas spp., and Hepatitis B.

30 posted on 05/09/2003 2:08:07 PM PDT by Polycarp ("When a mother can kill her own child, what is left of the West to save?" - Mother Theresa)
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To: Polycarp
I am uncomfortable.

Why is this article ignoring the fact that Racicot is also meeting with ex-homosexuals?

What is the agenda here? This concerns me that they are not being honest.
31 posted on 05/09/2003 2:08:36 PM PDT by mabelkitty
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To: Polycarp
Homosexuals are giving more money to the RNC.

Until these family groups start writing checks and contribute to the party other than making demands because they want to, they won't have a leg to stand on.

It goes both ways. Racicot, as much as I don't like him, has a job to do.

32 posted on 05/09/2003 2:14:40 PM PDT by mabelkitty
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To: tdadams
hyper-paranoid, self-appointed guardians of the troglodyte wing of the Republican Party

I'd rather wear this ad hominem label than the label "libertarian" any day. Besides, I take scorn from you as a sincere compliment.

33 posted on 05/09/2003 2:15:21 PM PDT by Polycarp ("When a mother can kill her own child, what is left of the West to save?" - Mother Theresa)
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To: Polycarp
EEEEEUUUUWWWWWWW ... nasty. Sorry I asked. : (
34 posted on 05/09/2003 2:16:28 PM PDT by eastsider
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To: RAT Patrol
BUMP
35 posted on 05/09/2003 2:18:09 PM PDT by TLBSHOW (the gift is to see the truth)
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To: mabelkitty
Why is this article ignoring the fact that Racicot is also meeting with ex-homosexuals?

Huh? This article indicates he has NOT met with the ex-homosexuals.

Racicot was asked if he would meet with a group of former homosexuals hosted by Parents and Friends of Ex-Gays and Gays. He said, “Of course.”

IF YOU KNOW OTHERWISE, PLEASE POST A LINK.

36 posted on 05/09/2003 2:21:36 PM PDT by Polycarp ("When a mother can kill her own child, what is left of the West to save?" - Mother Theresa)
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To: mabelkitty
Until these family groups start writing checks and contribute to the party other than making demands because they want to, they won't have a leg to stand on.

You idiot. Conservatives ARE the base, the bread and butter, and the pocketbook, of the GOP.

37 posted on 05/09/2003 2:22:49 PM PDT by Polycarp ("When a mother can kill her own child, what is left of the West to save?" - Mother Theresa)
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To: Polycarp
http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewPolitics.asp?Page=\Politics\archive\200305\POL20030508a.html
38 posted on 05/09/2003 2:24:13 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife (Lurking since 2000.)
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To: RJCogburn
I'm with Racicot too! I do not like Bauer. Frankly, I welcome the Log Cabin Republicans. Obviously, their personal homosexual agenda takes a back sest to other more important things for this country. Good for them. Bauer can go flip some pancakes and hang out with his buddy McInsane.
39 posted on 05/09/2003 2:27:42 PM PDT by SoCar (Huckabee's "Tax Me More Fund" needs to spread!)
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To: eastsider
"...but they just wanna be left alone..."TM

(By the way...imagine smokers standing on the steps of the Capital, screaming through loudspeakers for more funding for lung cancer, while chainsmoking unfiltered Camels. Homosexuals demanding money for AIDS and other homo STD research is no different. Both are behavior induced diseases.)

40 posted on 05/09/2003 2:28:11 PM PDT by Polycarp ("When a mother can kill her own child, what is left of the West to save?" - Mother Theresa)
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