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H-1B Visas Cost American Jobs
EagleForum.org ^ | May 7, 2003 | Phyllis Schlafly

Posted on 05/07/2003 7:59:11 PM PDT by old-ager

H-1B Visas Cost American Jobs

May 7, 2003 by: Phyllis Schlafly

Republicans in Congress will soon have the opportunity to prove whether they do the bidding of their corporate contributors or side with their hardworking voters. The corporations are lobbying to extend the Clinton Administration law that raised the number of H-1B visas to 195,000 a year, which otherwise is scheduled to expire on September 30 and revert to the 1999 level of 65,000.

H-1B visas allow corporations to displace Americans with cheap skilled labor imported from foreign countries. H-1B visas are good for three years and can be extended for another three years, and nobody has any count of how many H-1B aliens remain indefinitely, legally or illegally.

Some observers estimate that there are about 890,000 H-1B aliens now working in the United States. The Immigration and Naturalization Service said that the official count of H-1B aliens is less than half of those actually in the United States because the count excludes those who were previously approved and had their stay extended and also excludes the H-1B aliens working for educational institutions and nonprofits.

It's a fiction that the United States suffers a shortage of skilled labor, and most H-1B aliens fill entry-level jobs. By far the most H-1Bs are issued to people from India, with the second largest number coming from China.

According to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics, unemployment among American electronic engineers has soared to 7 percent, and among computer hardware engineers to 6.5 percent, both surpassing the national jobless rate of 5.8 percent. According to the Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers (IEEE), electrical and electronic engineers lost 241,000 jobs in the past two years, and computer scientists and systems analysts lost 175,000 jobs.

IEEE president John Steadman says he has "never heard" of such high unemployment, and that the wide-open importation of H-1B aliens has substantially contributed to the hardship of U.S. engineers and computer scientists. The result, he adds, is "a very substantial and negative effect on the economic conditions of the United States."

Corporations continue importing H-1B aliens at the same time they lay off U.S. citizens. With hundreds of thousands of unemployed American engineers, why should corporations receive special privileges to import even more foreign workers?

Corporations love H-1B aliens not only because they work longer hours for lower wages, but also because it is more difficult for them to change jobs. This system is an affront to free enterprise because the regulations confine the foreigners to their sponsoring corporations like indentured servants.

Government officials don't check for violations of H-1B regulations or determine if there really is an actual shortage of U.S. skilled workers.

The national media treat H-1B as a non-issue, but local newspapers across the country are full of reports about how American workers are laid off and replaced with foreign workers. The San Jose Mercury News found scores of complaints filed at attorneys' offices, the EEOC, and the Departments of Justice and Labor.

A Dallas database administrator said, "One recruiter flatly told me they have 50 H-1Bs willing to work cheap ahead of me in line." Another U.S. citizen who filed a complaint with the EEOC alleged that SwitchOn Networks fired him after six months and replaced him with an H-1B alien with less education and less experience, paying him $30,000 a year less.

Bob Simoni, who has an MBA from UCLA, thought he had a good job with Toshiba installing software, but all of a sudden Toshiba outsourced his division to an India-based company, Infosys, which employs H-1Bs in the United States. Simoni was allowed to stay for three weeks to do "knowledge transfer," a euphemism for training an H- 1B alien to replace him.

Computer science expert Dr. Norman Matloff provided ample proof to the U.S. House Judiciary Committee, Subcommittee on Immigration, that H-1B aliens depress wages for all workers. He cited a UCLA study that H-1B engineers were paid 33 percent less than comparable Americans, a Cornell study that found wages 20-30 percent less, and a Forbes Magazine report that H-1B wages are 25-30 percent less.

This is not free-market economics. It is collusion between corporations that pour big money into politics to pass legislation that replaces American workers with foreign substitutes. The law keeps wages artificially low for the benefit of corporate profits.

Another device used by employers to bring in alien workers is the L-1 visa. L-1s are intended to enable multinationals to transfer executives, managers and employees with specialized skills from a foreign office to a U.S. location or affiliate, but they have fewer stipulations and are easy to abuse.

Mike Emmons told how his former employer, Siemens ICN, used L-1 visas to replace 20 American computer techies with aliens from India. "Management mandated we train our foreign replacements, then Americans were shown the door. It was the most demoralizing thing I have ever experienced."

Tell your Congressman that importing hundreds of thousands of alien workers at a time of unemployment and economic recession is absurd and is an insult to Americans.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government
KEYWORDS: h1b; immigration; india; unemployment
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To: Sherri
You are exactly right. Loopholes allow these abuses.
41 posted on 05/08/2003 6:49:00 AM PDT by TopDog2
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To: jagrmeister
In what year was that study done?

This study also only counts scientists and engineers, not the total employment in the fields that have been negatively impacted by the H1-B program. For example, I have a degree in Computer Information Systems, not Computer Science, so I would not be counted in this study.

Even if we accept those statistics as valid (massive anecdotal evidence suggests otherwise though), there are nearly 500,000 unemployed Americans that should be working on those jobs.

42 posted on 05/08/2003 6:57:26 AM PDT by TopDog2
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To: old-ager
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43 posted on 05/08/2003 8:58:54 AM PDT by Ed_in_NJ
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To: old-ager
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44 posted on 05/08/2003 9:01:33 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (We are crushing our enemies, seeing him driven before us and hearing the lamentations of the liberal)
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To: old-ager
Stupid move on the elite's part, alienate people with high IQs and replace them with people with loyalties to a different country and culture. We in this country are coming to sharp divide and I happen to think our current elite two party duopoly will have a hard time making the leap.
45 posted on 05/08/2003 9:05:49 AM PDT by junta
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To: jagrmeister
Immigration restrictions from all countries is best. It's not my job or any elses job in this country to employ citizens of other countries. I want my dollars spent here and my tax dollars as well. When will the United States start worrying about it's own citizens instead of all the rest of the world.
46 posted on 05/08/2003 9:12:13 AM PDT by samuel_adams_us
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To: jagrmeister
Economy rebounds -> Native trained engineers won't be enough to handle increase in job openings

Supply and demand can handle this. There's no need for the government to try to micromanage the labor supply.

47 posted on 05/08/2003 9:15:53 AM PDT by ThinkDifferent
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To: junta
We in this country are coming to sharp divide and I happen to think our current elite two party duopoly will have a hard time making the leap.

Please describe what you see as the 'sharp divide'. I'm not sure I see it. Managers and employees have had different agendas since Ur, I suppose.

48 posted on 05/08/2003 10:08:59 AM PDT by Jack Black
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To: Jack Black
"Please describe what you see as the 'sharp divide'"

I think I can answer this one, its at simple as this article's topic: H-1B Visas Cost American Jobs. Thats it.

Now with the War over in Iraq and Economy in a Recession, name me some brave(politically stupid) politicians who DO NOT want to put Americans Back to Work. H1A, H1B, and L1's are all manufactured in Washington. This is Washington problem and will require Washington Fix even if the Politcal Home Team cant get the picture the voting public will remind them.
49 posted on 05/08/2003 10:25:48 AM PDT by bluetoad
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To: jagrmeister
nonsense, there are so many talented american engineers looking for work right now, your argument there arent enough is crazy! There always were enough, H1B was a kickback for donors, even in the height of the bubble there were pleanty of US engineers around.... H1B's are a virtual slave labor for the corps and anyone who's had to deal with it, knows it.

Sorry H1B program was, is and always will be a scam.
50 posted on 05/08/2003 10:28:36 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: HamiltonJay
No, not really. I was here during the boom times and the unemployment rate in Silicon Valley was something like 2%- well under "full employment". It was likely lower for engineers.
51 posted on 05/08/2003 2:32:06 PM PDT by jagrmeister
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To: ThinkDifferent
I disagree. We've got too many boneheads graduating with liberal arts degrees rather than computer science these days. That needs to change.
52 posted on 05/08/2003 2:33:45 PM PDT by jagrmeister
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To: samuel_adams_us
It improves my quality of life, both as a consumer and as an investor, for American tech companies to be successful and produce cutting edge products and services. Therefore I favor H1-B immigration, so long as it continues to complement our native talent base.
53 posted on 05/08/2003 2:35:17 PM PDT by jagrmeister
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To: TopDog2
You would have to consult the National Science Foundation website for further information on the study.
54 posted on 05/08/2003 2:36:29 PM PDT by jagrmeister
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To: Willie Green; Wolfie; ex-snook; Cacophonous; Poohbah; Jhoffa_; FITZ; arete; FreedomPoster; ...
Republicans in Congress will soon have the opportunity to prove whether they do the bidding of their corporate contributors or side with their hardworking voters. The corporations are lobbying to extend the Clinton Administration law that raised the number of H-1B visas to 195,000 a year, which otherwise is scheduled to expire on September 30 and revert to the 1999 level of 65,000.
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Mike Emmons told how his former employer, Siemens ICN, used L-1 visas to replace 20 American computer techies with aliens from India. "Management mandated we train our foreign replacements, then Americans were shown the door. It was the most demoralizing thing I have ever experienced."

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55 posted on 05/08/2003 2:37:57 PM PDT by A. Pole
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To: vanmorrison
The Saudi Arabian monsters who perpetrated the 911 atrocities were foreign engineers who received legal visas, ostensibly to fill open positions in our technical markets.

Actually, they were here on STUDENT visas.

56 posted on 05/08/2003 2:41:31 PM PDT by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women!)
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To: InABunkerUnderSF
If there is a labor shortage in the high tech. sector, why does Silicon Valley have an 8% unemployment rate?

BTW, this is the official rate. Real unemployment is much higher.

57 posted on 05/08/2003 2:42:24 PM PDT by A. Pole
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To: jagrmeister
It improves my quality of life, both as a consumer and as an investor, for American tech companies to be successful and produce cutting edge products and services.

You could say the same thing about having prisioners make goods for 10 cents an hour too. Would you be for that? What's your criteria beyond "my price is lower"?
Granted its already done with Prision Industries.
58 posted on 05/08/2003 2:49:00 PM PDT by lelio
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To: jagrmeister
I'm convinced the plight of the native-born engineer is a temporary phenomenon.

Are you also convinced that plight of people working in manufacturing "is a temporary phenomenon"?

59 posted on 05/08/2003 2:50:18 PM PDT by A. Pole
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To: jagrmeister
No, not really. I was here during the boom times and the unemployment rate in Silicon Valley was something like 2%- well under "full employment". It was likely lower for engineers.

In the past these jobs were filled by people from other states. Back in the 70s and 80s it was easy to tell when high tech was booming in Silicon Valley by the number of out of state plates on cars seen during commute time.

Not so in the late eighties and ninties. The slack now is taken up by cheap foreign talent. Its short sighted & immoral.

60 posted on 05/08/2003 2:50:28 PM PDT by skeeter (Fac ut vivas)
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