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I loathe America, and what it has done to the rest of the world.
Telegraph.Com ^ | Filed: 08/05/2003) | Margaret Drabble

Posted on 05/07/2003 5:15:08 PM PDT by Leisler

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To: Leisler
We have seen enough boots in the past few months to last us a lifetime.

Well speak for yerself, woman. I done worn through two pair in the past half year, and I am a-lookin' for new BOOTS.

201 posted on 05/07/2003 7:05:48 PM PDT by maxwell (Well I'm sure I'd feel much worse if I weren't under such heavy sedation...)
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To: Leisler
Drabble is not a bad-looking person physically--her ugliness comes from within. She is a big supporter of gay rights and her novels are much over-rated, and tend to be rather un-emotionless. Like many leftist literary figures, she is a legend mainly amongst the like-minded people who populate that strata of society.
202 posted on 05/07/2003 7:08:59 PM PDT by FirstTomato
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To: Leisler
Someone "went beyond deception and distortion into the land of madness" alright, but it wasn't the plane nose-cone doodler. It was the commie nose-tilt noodler. Sitting in front of her Tele, Marg Drabble (what a name) has not so quietly gone mad. Don't cha just love it?
203 posted on 05/07/2003 7:10:24 PM PDT by JasonC
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To: PJ-Comix
And what I'd like to know is what is significantly different about the current administration and the last one that the shining light of America is now something other?

IMO, there is much that has become dark about America but little of it is something a lefty would agree with me on. So what is it that has changed?

What lefty thinks America was EVER a shining light? It goes to show you that they will say anything to engage in emotionalism.
204 posted on 05/07/2003 7:12:26 PM PDT by Skywalk
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To: FirstTomato
Drabble is not a bad-looking person physically -- her ugliness comes from within

Usually ugliness from within manifests itself in physical ugliness. And in the case of Mizz Drabble, this certainly holds true (imo).

205 posted on 05/07/2003 7:12:33 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Vision Thing
Well, it's clear Anakin hated the Republic and we know what he helped usher in with his hatred of self and embrace of power.

Too bad we have so many Vader and Sauron-worshippers running around the world.
206 posted on 05/07/2003 7:13:18 PM PDT by Skywalk
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To: Mr. Mojo
I don't want to visit the planet where she is considered 'pretty.'
207 posted on 05/07/2003 7:14:06 PM PDT by Petronski (I'm not always cranky.)
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To: Leisler
George Orwell who wrote the famous adage, ‘At fifty, every man has the face he deserves.’

Hmmmm...I think Orwell is wrong on that one. Lots of really bad bad people have nice looking faces, and some of the kindest souls I've ever known are ugly as sin on the outside. And many folks look good because they've never had too much stress. Pampered people (especially rich ones) who can buy the best of medical care and beauty care will look good regardless of their values. Just a sad fact of life.

208 posted on 05/07/2003 7:15:01 PM PDT by FirstTomato
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To: Leisler
Drabble... It's not only her name, it describes her writing too.
209 posted on 05/07/2003 7:15:37 PM PDT by oldfart
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To: Petronski
I don't want to visit the planet where she is considered 'pretty.'

I think that's the planet the Islamomartyrs are presenty visiting. ....for eternity.

210 posted on 05/07/2003 7:16:35 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Leisler

"Damn Yankee"


(Ted Nugent, Jack Blades, Tommy Shaw)

Hey brother
Ready for another
Dose of my Yankee pride
In the jungle, ya just might stumble
Onto something that you never tried

Got that right

There was trouble in the east
Worry in the west
`Til the wall came tumblin' down
Shift in the sand
Rockets to the madman
Haven't heard a sound

You don't have to worry
Help is on the way
We don't need no thank you, ma'am
We know what they're gonna say

They say
Hey, hey, Damn Yankee
Whoa, oh, oh, Damn Yankee

(How we doin')

Now I say what I want
And I do what I want
And I go where I want to go
Ain't no strong man
Safe from the hangman
Baby, now, don't ya know

If you need assistance
I'll be on the way
Run into a little resistance
Ya know what they're gonna say, yeah

They say
Hey, hey, Damn Yankee
Whoa, oh, oh, Damn Yankee
Hey, hey, Damn Yankee

They landed at Plymouth Rock
The kids was ready to roll
Greasy dictator down south of us
Lost all control
He didn't have time to see me
He didn't have time to thank me
Suck on the barrel of my hot shotgun
Smile when you say Damn Yankee

Hey, hey, Damn Yankee
Whoa, oh, oh, Damn Yankee
Hey, hey, Damn Yankee
Whoa, oh, oh, Damn Yankee

212 posted on 05/07/2003 7:27:38 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("Son, your ego is writing checks your body can't cash!")
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To: Skywalk
It's almost cliche that libs are overly emotional, from their squeamishly bleeding hearts to their dark seething rage against decency, strength, and freedom. It would be nice if they can recognize the danger of their feelings, but until they do, we have to defend ourselves against their rage.
213 posted on 05/07/2003 7:31:31 PM PDT by Vision Thing
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To: FirstTomato
Orwell was writing in the '40s. But it still is true. I find, with few exceptions, people who have bee worked on, weird. Michael Jackson as a extream example. Older women with pulled faces and wrinkles at the bottom of their neck. Repelent. I even don't like the young beauties with the saline implants. Unnatural, and again, weird.
214 posted on 05/07/2003 7:32:01 PM PDT by Leisler
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To: Leisler
Orwell pointed out to us the dangers of Newspeak.

Yes but the major gist of that novel was to point out the dangers of allowing liberals to run the show.

Voltaire told us that we invent words to conceal truths.

Ahh, I see the left is beginning to feel safe to mention Voltaire again. It's been hard to find a Lefty quoting Voltaire lately. Normally, they trot his name out fairly regularly. It usually comes up when the issue is freedom of speech.

I dissapprove of what you say, but I would defend to the death your right to say it.

Ring a bell Lefties? Usually, they'll whip that one out on you quicker than a Frenchman can rip open a pack of Gitanes. The liberal recites this quotation with a certain flair- that is, they used to do it with a flair. It is a demonstration of his passion for freedom.

Then the war in Iraq came along.

In Iraq, the people had no freedom of speech. In Iraq, speaking your mind could get you killed in an unspeakably horrible fashion. In Iraq books critical of the ruling regime had to be printed on photocopiers and distributed via underground network. The liberal fiercely decrees that the highest form of free speech is the ability to protest and demonstrate. In Iraq the only demonstrations were those arranged by the State and carried out under the ever present and ominous mustachioed visage of the ruler.

We all listened to the left during the build up to the war. They were no longer quite so keen to defend freedom of speech with their lives were they? They weren't so quick to drop names like Voltaire. What happened Lefties? Cat get your tongue? Philosophy turn around and bite you in your collective ass? Voltaire dropped a dime on you didn't he?

It turns out that the liberal is merely posturing when he quotes Votaire (but we already knew that). In truth the only thing the liberal will fight over is how to distribute the wealth of others.

When a liberal trots out Voltaire and declares his willingness to die for your right to speak freely he is trying to portray himself as a staunch defender of freedom. But in concrete terms what it works out to is he only wants someone else to protect his right to defecate in the street in the name of protest or scream "Pig!" in the face of a law enforcement officer at the top of his lungs. All you third world types who don't currently enjoy these fruits of liberty, "talk to the hand-'cause Lefty aint listening", love of Voltaire notwithstanding.

Ahh, the Left. They talk a grand game. But when it actually came down to a situation where a people's freedom of speech could be died for- they choked on the that big socialist appendage they've been fellating all these years. Now that the cards have been played we see who would really fight and die for freedom and who would hit the streets to protest freedom being defended.

This is why this author has her jockstrap in a twist. This is why she loathes America.

The liberal is angry these days because the cat's out of the bag and the whole world now understands the score. Freedom doesn't just come through wishful thinking. It doesn't magically appear by paying your union dues. Having an "objective media" doesn't guarantee freedom, just ask the Iraqis and a man named Jordan Eason how much freedom CNN brought to that country over the years.

So where does one find freedom in today's world? If you are weak, who is your best bet when it comes to securing or maintaining your liberty? It surely isn't the United Nations- that organization did everything it could to keep the average Iraqi in bondage. If you're poor and oppressed you also best not turn to the modern liberal because you will receive no mercy there.

The author says her hate is like a disease and she's right- it's a cancer. She hates freedom and she therefore hates America because our nation and our President is the world's biggest defender of freedom. She hates us because we are the best and ablest guarantor of her right to have her vomit published openly. She hates us because we don't just quote Voltaire- we back it up with our blood.

Ironically, this author revealed the true nature of her soul in this piece and I am certain she has not the wit to see it. Using the Telegraph newspaper as a pulpit, she thumps and waves 1984 like a New Age Bible but just last week the Telegraph printed a piece called: Eric the Contrary (Eric Blair was Orwell's real name) which gave a brief but comprehensive sketch of George Orwell's life. George Orwell was a socialist. George Orwell wasn't a panty waisted pacifist though. He went to Spain and fought against Franco and was shot by a sniper. But the real wound George Orwell sustained in the war was having his eyes opened to the real intent of the Left:

It was his experience in Spain that did the most to shape his vision of the future. In their eagerness to remake the world, his Communist allies in the war showed him that the individual meant nothing to their struggle. The power of the party was all that mattered. Ruthlessly, they crushed every form of dissent and every expression of personal will.

Almost in a flash, he saw what lay ahead of the world as ideologies struggled to conquer independent thought. The lies, the betrayals, the manipulation of facts, the spying, informing and the brainwashing would all be done in the name of a greater good, but the end result would be less freedom for most people and a great deal more power for a few.

As Orwell the writer, he made it his mission to warn the world of the dangers ahead. At first, very few people listened...

The true believers didn't want to hear that Stalin and his agents were undermining the cause of freedom. Instead, they turned on the messenger and denounced him as a liar and traitor.

Margaret Drabble and George Orwell wouldn't get along too well I don't believe. She outed herself with this passage from her diatribe:

The Vietnamese had won the war, but had lost the peace.
Only someone who truly loves Big Brother would believe the Vietnamese people were the winners when America pulled out of their country. The circle comes full. The anti-war movement was the culprit there as well.

Tell us how you really feel Maggie...

215 posted on 05/07/2003 7:32:31 PM PDT by Prodigal Son
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To: Mr. Mojo
Usually ugliness from within manifests itself in physical ugliness. And in the case of Mizz Drabble, this certainly holds true (imo).

Would you judge all ugly people to be ugly inside then?

Ugliness within is hardly EVER manifested on the outside, in my opinion. Why? Because people with true internal ugliness are sociopathic, without conscience, and they don't worry.

Physical beauty is absolutely NO indicator of goodness at all. None. Ted Bundy was a great looking guy--but a deadly socipathic killer. Most serial killers, most genocidal maniacs, most tyrants are good-looking people. Why shouldn't they be? They don't worry about anything. IMHO Equating ugliness with evil is a big mistake. Evil is a master of disguise.

216 posted on 05/07/2003 7:32:45 PM PDT by FirstTomato
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To: Leisler
If you live long enough, one day someone will look at your wrinkles and your sagging jowls and your transparent skin and think you are ugly. Will they be correct? Does that mean you will deserve to be seen as ugly? Does that mean you deserve that face?

Just asking.
217 posted on 05/07/2003 7:39:37 PM PDT by FirstTomato
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To: FirstTomato
Would you judge all ugly people to be ugly inside then?

No, that's why I specifically said "usually."

Physical beauty is absolutely NO indicator of goodness at all

I've seen many supposedly good looking women that I'm not the least bit attracted to turn out to be real b/tches. It shows in their eyes, and their foreheads. They could have perfect skin, teeth, bodies, the works. But there's something about them that makes them unattractive (and sometimes downright ugly) in my eyes. The answer: Their character. Their character manifests in their faces, and there's not a damn thing they can do about it. (This holds true for men too, obviously).

218 posted on 05/07/2003 7:39:55 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Leisler
Author Margaret Drabble rants:   "I detest American imperialism, American infantilism, and American triumphalism about victories it didn't even win."

Classic case of penis envy.

--Boot Hill

219 posted on 05/07/2003 7:40:38 PM PDT by Boot Hill
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To: Leisler
Typical lying leftist.
220 posted on 05/07/2003 7:41:07 PM PDT by Pukka Puck
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