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'West' May Be Forced To Wing It Next Season (WEST WING POLL, SHOULD IT STAY OR GO)
Metromix.com ^ | Wednesday, May 7, 2003 | Steve Johnson

Posted on 05/07/2003 6:09:28 AM PDT by fight_truth_decay

With Aaron Sorkin "voluntarily leaving" his show "The West Wing" and John Wells stepping in to replace him — a Very Bad Sign for the future of the slipping NBC White House series — it's probably now or never for the unveiling of my lyrics to the show's stately theme music. So here goes. It helps to read these while watching or, better, as I do, to sing them zestily aloud: "In D.C., there is a wing That's on the west side of a house It's not the east wing, or the south It's not the north wing, shut your mouth …" And that, despite years of trying to develop a second verse, is where I'm stuck. It's probably where I'll stay stuck because it's hard to imagine the series being worth much next season without Sorkin, it's creator, co-executive producer (with Wells) and writer of most of its scripts. Founding director Thomas Schlamme is leaving, too, It is indisputable that the series (8 p.m. Wednesday, WMAQ-Ch. 5) has developed a desperate air in the tail end of this season, throwing in unlikely, momentous events willy-nilly (Another White House shooting! A pending kidnapping!) in an attempt to either regain audience or mimic a daytime soap opera plot. What Wells is really known for, inside TV land, is being able to make the trains run on time. Sorkin's reputation is for holding up the trains as he pounds out the last few pages of a giddily literate script. Such indulgences were granted when the show was cleaning up in the ratings, winning three consecutive best drama Emmys, but this season, as the show has lost close to a third of its young-adult audience (mostly to "The Bachelor"), cost overruns apparently became more annoying. So prepare ye, "West Wing" fans, for a much more efficient television program next year, one where maybe the lows won't be so low, but the highs won't even come close. I'll be curious, yes, but I'll be a lot more interested in what Sorkin and Schlamme come up with next.

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To: fight_truth_decay
It's about time someone asked the question!
21 posted on 05/07/2003 6:48:37 AM PDT by submarinerswife
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To: Pete
A true LOL moment!
22 posted on 05/07/2003 6:53:33 AM PDT by sarasota
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To: submarinerswife
And the answer is .... a little red X.

Michael

23 posted on 05/07/2003 6:55:35 AM PDT by Wright is right! (Have a profitable day!)
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To: vollmond
"The debate was when this show jumped the shark."

I'm not sure exactly when the shark was jumped. There are so many other leading candidates for that moment.

One might have been merely the SELECTION of buffoonish James Brolin to play the GOP candidate. Another might have been the point where the Prez started receiving terse, cogent summaries of various policy points and he firmly rejected all of them in favor of knee-jerk hard-left liberal dogma. Or the shark could have been jumped when the show simply became preachy. The first two seasons had very little of that.

The remaining audience for TWW is primarily DU members and hard-left yellow-dawg Dems - those of us who ignored the preachiness and enjoyed the excellent production values have long ago left in droves.

Also, it must be said that TWW inherited a cush slot on Wednesday nights - not much in the way of competition, and the other nets haven't taken TWW on head-to-head as they might have. That will change big time next fall. Blood is in the water.

Another factor is the 9/11 pretty much made the show irrelevant. There's no way the show could match reality.

Michael

24 posted on 05/07/2003 7:03:40 AM PDT by Wright is right! (Have a profitable day!)
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To: Cincinatus
(music) "to dream the impossible dream, to fight the unbeatable foe, to go...etc." (/music)...ABCNNBCBS would have a fits...:)
25 posted on 05/07/2003 7:03:56 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Just because your paranoid,doesn't mean they aren't out to get you. :)
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To: wideawake
The Ann Coulter-like character last year..was most excellent....she's now got a starring gig on CSI-Miame..
26 posted on 05/07/2003 7:08:36 AM PDT by ken5050
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To: conservativeinbflo.
HE COULD RUN FOR PRESIDENT OF IRAQ !
27 posted on 05/07/2003 7:25:39 AM PDT by OREALLY
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To: fight_truth_decay

Boot Bartlett! Fred Thompson For President!
28 posted on 05/07/2003 7:35:59 AM PDT by SquirrelKing ("Beware the barrenness of a busy life." - Socrates)
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To: SquirrelKing
Is it time to call the movers for "West Wing"?


70.0%
Yes (560 responses)


30.0%
No (240 responses)

800 total responses
29 posted on 05/07/2003 7:56:34 AM PDT by fight_truth_decay (occupied)
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To: conservativeinbflo.
Never watched it, never will.
30 posted on 05/07/2003 8:13:16 AM PDT by 2rightsleftcoast
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To: fight_truth_decay
Is it time to call the movers for "West Wing"?



73.1%
Yes (653 responses)


26.9%
No (240 responses)

893 total responses
31 posted on 05/07/2003 9:42:17 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Free Republic, where leftist liars are exposed 24/7!)
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To: fight_truth_decay
I haven't watched West Wing since that frustrating Fourth of July 2001 when the networks froze out any mention of our real president and guest-starred Martin "Sheen" Estevez as the host of the televised national fireworks on the mall. He's been strutting around "presidentially" ever since; even interviewed for his opinion on weighty issues. If the network would slam-dunk his butt in either an impeachment or election loss to an admirable, respect-inspiring Republican, I would rejoin the audience. Not that I think they could find any writers who would/could pull it off.
32 posted on 05/07/2003 10:46:55 AM PDT by ntnychik
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To: Grand Old Partisan
For the first time in my life, I watched -- maybe fifteen minutes of -- The West Wing. The fascistic politics aside, it was very well done dramatically, so I can see its appeal -- fascistic politics aside.

This is what kills me about the show. It wouldn't damage the show a bit if there were REAL Republican characters who weren't either a smarter-than-the-average bimbette, a mushy Deep North-type that despises "right wingers" and allies himself with the Bartlet bunch to fight them, or a venal bottomfeeder who doesn't know the Constitution, world history, or the Ten Commandments. Yet that's what Sorkin, Schlamme, and Wells have insisted on, with Peggy Noonan and Marlin Fitzwater giving their tacit approval.

33 posted on 05/07/2003 12:09:02 PM PDT by L.N. Smithee (Just because I don't think like you doesn't mean I don't think for myself)
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To: fight_truth_decay
How about a competing show? Call it "The Right House". The start up movie involves an utterly corrupt sexually deviant President Stain, his evil communist wife Evita and power hungry Vice President Bore who start with not only with the Congress firmly in their grip but through the use of Bribes , FBI sourced blackmail and bold lying chutzpah have most of the press in its pocket . The plots thickens when thanks to Talk Radio and some brave honest webmasters citizen Stain not only lose both houses , but cause their TV monopoly to cave in. Stain and Bore both end up being impeached at the same time for murder, treason and war crimes but escape to communist China before they can be prosecuted by a justice department that has been cleansed of the evil cronies they installed.

  The new president, the former Speaker of the House who they unsuccessfully tried to depose with lies and smears takes the high office and becomes a bold man of action who routinely spreads the light of liberty and justice all throughout the world. Stain and Bore meanwhile in the coming episodes continue to try and hatch evil plots from their hideout in China only to be defeated time after time by the brave and honest former speaker.

Imagine the episodes you could have! Stain tries to steal elections, burns down the houses of christians, kills his political opponents and even works hand in hand with terrorists. You have all kinds of amazing plots that seem unbelievable but would work!

34 posted on 05/07/2003 1:56:51 PM PDT by Nateman (Socialism first, cancer second.)
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To: TonyRo76
Does anybody have links to the advertisers? I would gladly email them and complain...but I cannot stomach the show long enough to see who is advertising.....
36 posted on 05/08/2003 7:54:11 AM PDT by Gopher Broke
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To: fight_truth_decay; MJY1288; lawgirl; mtngrl@vrwc; Miss Marple; kayak; SevenofNine; Wphile; ...
The Grand Finale of The West Wing just aired.

President Barlett's M.S. has caused him and his cabinet to invoke the 25th Amendment, and he has resigned without (for a reason I don't know) there being a Vice President available.

So, the Speaker of the House, a Republican, has just been sworn in as President.

The really ugly thing is that the pseudo-Hastert character is played by John Goodman, who acts nasty to everyone. We all know Dennis Hastert, our current speaker is a sweetheart, so the character assassination is a vicious final swipe of Republicans by Sorkin, may he rest in drug addicted pieces.

37 posted on 05/14/2003 10:06:57 PM PDT by patriciaruth
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To: patriciaruth
To be perfectly honest, I have never seen a single episode of "Left Wing"
38 posted on 05/14/2003 10:09:14 PM PDT by MJY1288 (Freedom is Ringing)
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To: fight_truth_decay
80.9%
Yes (1075 responses)


19.1%
No (253 responses)

1328 total responses
39 posted on 05/14/2003 10:09:17 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma
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To: patriciaruth
The Grand Finale of The West Wing just aired.
President Barlett's M.S. has caused him and his cabinet to invoke the 25th Amendment, and he has resigned without (for a reason I don't know) there being a Vice President available.
So, the Speaker of the House, a Republican, has just been sworn in as President.

The show didn't have a Vice President??

40 posted on 05/14/2003 10:10:25 PM PDT by Mo1 (I'm a monthly Donor .. You can be one too!)
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