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Jim, how is it that you have access to this 'mountain' of unquestionable evidence? Do you work for the FBI ? Were you on the Jury? Are you a computer hacker so you can access any Govt file you want? Please explain how you have so much (so called) unquestionable evidence... because simply saying over and over again that McVeigh and Nichols were involved (which EVERYONE agrees with) MAY be only part of the story.

You say that "no one" has been able to prove there were other accomplices. I would argue that unless you are with the FBI or other high-level security clearance agency, you don't know that to be a fact. Unless you have a security clearance that gives you access to documents that the general public cannot see, you don't know if there ARE accomplices that have been kept out of the picture.

The phone card is NOT proof that McVeigh/Nichols did not make other calls on other phone cards, or from other land line locations, or from cell phones that they held for only short periods of time under false names, or collect calls, etc. It only proves what calls were made on THAT particular phone card.

If you do have a security clearance, perhaps you can debunk these flimsy connections:

Ramzi Yousef utilized local pawns for the first WTC bombing. He took locals with a hatred for America and directed them throughout the 'mission'. And then Yousef left the country the day of the bombing. One of those pawns that Yousef used was the guy who actually drove the truck into the WTC building parking lot. He was not a very smart guy, because he made 46 calls to Iraq during the preparations for the bombing. This guy was arrested when he tried to get back his cash deposit on the truck he had rented for the bombing.

A few dates:
Early 1991 (around the end of the Gulf War): Ramzi Yousef showed up in the Philippines seeking contact with a Muslim group there. Introduced as "the chemist", he proposed to collaborate in bombing conspiracies.

September 1, 1992: Ramzi Yousef arrived at JFK airport in New York City. He presented an Iraqi passport without a U.S. visa, was briefly detained (and fingerprinted) for illegal entry, and granted asylum pending a hearing. Yousef went to stay at the apartment of Musab Yasin, an Iraqi living in Jersey City (in the vicinity of where the Anthrax letters originated... but that's another story).

February 26, 1993: First World Trade Center bombing. Ramzi Yousef flew to Pakistan that afternoon. He subsequently ended up in the Phillipines.

November 22, 1994, Nichols went to the Phillipines, where he allegedly stayed at the same hotel as Yousef.

January 1995: Yousef accidentally started a fire in his apartment in the Phillipines, mixing the chemicals to be used in a plot to blow up 11 commerical airliners mid-air, enroute to the United States. This information was gleaned from his laptop computer which was left behind when he fled due to the fire.

February 1995: Yousef is arrested in Pakistan.

April 19, 1995: Oklahoma City Bombing.

Thoughts... **IF** there is an Iraqi connection to the Oklahoma City Bombing:

Yousef would have learned from his first WTC bombing, and as such he may have insisted that all of his communications with McVeigh/Nichols were in person, and/or in the Phillipines. Thus, there would be no record of telephone calls to connect further accomplices. McVeigh/Nichols could have been Yousef's willing pawns for this 'mission' just like he had willing pawns in the WTC bombing.

WTC = Ryder Truck
OKC = Ryder Truck

WTC = Truck Bomb
OKC = Truck Bomb (and yes, I understand the explosives were entirely different - but the method was the same)

WTC = planning time: 6 months (after Yousef enters country)
OKC = planning time: 5 months (after Nichols visits Phillipines)

Why did Nichols have an "in the event of my death" letter prepared?

Where did McVeigh/Nichols get the $20,000 cash and other funding for hotels, travel, expenses, supplies, etc.? (Yousef??)

How does a so-called white supremacist (McVeigh) have an affair with a Phillipino woman? Was the white supremacy stuff a well-rehearsed act? A true white supremacist wouldn't have felt bad about killing Iraqis in the Gulf War, and McVeigh did feel bad and sought counseling for it.

There may not be a paper trail from McVeigh/Nichols to other accomplices... but unless you had full audio and video surveillance on Nichols the entire time he was in the Phillipines, you don't know who he met with, what was discussed, etc.

In other words, as Dr. Frank has tried to say several times, it is POSSIBLE there were others involved. The evidence that is publically available may not substantiate it, but that does not mean it isn't still possible.

As for why the reporter wasn't able to find evidence of any accomplices, that reporter doesn't have the time or resources available that the Govt does for looking into such things. NO ONE had Nichols under surveillance in the Phillipines, so NO ONE can say what he did over there... while staying at the same hotel as Yousef.

I also wonder why "Jim" is so adamant that his opinion is the only right opinion, given that he has not proven his case any more than the 'conspiracy theorists' have. His entire case seems to be that because McVeigh/Nichols DID DO IT, that is the full and complete "end of story." When in fact, it MAY BE only a part of the story.

As a matter of fact, Jim's own 'evidence' - the Grand Jury document - states the following about John Doe II:

"However, in spite of all the evidence before us we cannot finally put closure to the question of the existence of a John Doe II. We are encouraged that the FBI continues to have an agent assigned full-time to the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building bombing and are confident that if any new evidence comes to light, they and other law enforcement agencies will pursue those leads."

So it is clear that even the Grand Jury, who did review the mountains of evidence, was UNABLE to conclude that John Doe II was a phantom, leaving open the possibility that John Doe II does/did exist.

At any rate, Jim is free to draw his own conclusions, as are we all. Perhaps one day, when all the documents are unclassified, we will all know the truth, whatever that may be.