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To: Teacher317
He is being punished for something that you cowards fear he might do.

Exactly. He is a felon (a double loser as he has 2 convictions), thus gets to enjoy the bounty of his foolish decisions. Part of his penalty is that he can never vote, or own a gun. He KNEW that after his FIRST conviction. It's clearly explained to him, and it's no big state secret.

You are looking, eagerly, to punish someone you think is a lesser citizen than yourself.

Do I think I'm superior to a convicted felon? Hell yeah. In every single category you can think of. I'm smarter, honorable, trustworthy, and have demonstrated that I can be trusted to act responsibly. Every single thing I own, I bought with money I earned. I grew up poor, and worked full time to put my way through college. Compared to this piece of human refuse, I'm freakin' superman.

You're just as much of a thug as you think he is, but you use your "moral superiority" to use the power of the state, whereas all he ever hurt was a lock on a door (burglary is forcible entry to commit larceny inside... no violence necessary).

Boo-freakin-hoo. I have had my home invaded by a degenerate like this creep. A person who felt that everything I owned was his to take. Now, some idiot like you propose that these degenerates are just as worthy as everyone else to possess a firearm.

His infirm wife is terrified and bed-ridden, and you can't move out of the subsidized housing you live in because there are no other homes available. Oh, bring me a Kleenix, you are killing me.... we all make decisions in life. Some of us chose to work to get ahead, others chose to steal from the people who work. You would mirthfully stand by and applaud his murder (after watching his wife get raped and bludgeoned, of course), all because he made a mistake, paid his debt to society, and you want to look down your nose at him. Truly, you're a prince among men.

Again, boo-freakin-hoo. Let's contrast this with the number of innocents who are killed/robbed every year by thugs who have been convicted not once, not twice but three times. The odds are that he's more likely to be the cause of violence, than the recepient of it.

15 years easily violates the 8th Amendment since a third burglary or even a physical assault on another would carry far lesser sentences than he got for injuring no one!)

Stupidity should be painful. This is called escalated punishment. The first conviction should have sent a message to this degenerate. But, this specimen of humanity was a little slower than the average idiot. So, his second offense usually carries with it a longer sentence (for those who are too mentally inept to understand what they did was wrong). He was put on notice, and he stupidly thought otherwise. I have absolutely no pity for the criminal element. Maybe because I've experienced what they can do to people's lives. But bleeding hearts will always seek to blame someone else for the criminals poor decisions. You are blaming me, for wanting to punish a person who has been through the system AT LEAST twice. Perhaps some day you will be unfortunate to be in the wrong place, at the wrong time and expience first hand the utter disregard this element has for your property, your life, your possessions, and everything you hold dear. Then, I think you will change your tune.

285 posted on 04/30/2003 6:54:27 PM PDT by Hodar (With Rights, comes Responsibilities. Don't assume one, without assuming the other.)
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To: Hodar
Thanks for confirming your elitism and hatred for others who do not meet your standards for perfection. So much for finiteness in punishment (have you noticed yet that some crimes have harsher penalties than others? Most 3rd graders have that figured out), notions of Equal Protection (all free adult citizens deserve equal treatment... a very simple and Revolutionary notion. I hope that you may understand it someday. You cite it in your profile, anyway.), or even notions of Christian forgiveness (your profile indicates that you would consider yourself a religious, and yet you are a singularly hateful and unforgiving soul... I guess those passages on hypocrisy are also lost on you).
291 posted on 04/30/2003 8:00:40 PM PDT by Teacher317
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To: Hodar
Perhaps some day you will be unfortunate to be in the wrong place, at the wrong time and expience first hand the utter disregard this element has for your property, your life, your possessions, and everything you hold dear. Then, I think you will change your tune.

Been there, done that. Home break-in, stolen car stereos, and an ATM robbery... one's emotional state should not influence Constitutional analysis. Apparently you still are "boo-frickin-hoo-ing" over your losses, and figure that the Constitution takes a back seat to your whiny fears.

Oh, and by the way, since you are more likely to commit a crime than my wheelchair-bound grandmother, you won't mind a few charges coming your way for the future potential crimes that you have yet to commit. We're all sure you'll understand.

Oh? What's that? It shouldn't apply to you, oh elitist one? You didn't foresee that letting unConstitutional applications stand unopposed would encourage further instances? You were too stupid to realize that if it happens to someone else, it can happen to you? Hm! Who could've predicted that!

294 posted on 04/30/2003 8:10:17 PM PDT by Teacher317
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