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To: sparkomatic
Where is it written that an ex-convict loses his constitutional rights?

In many places. Those rights innure to us as long as we follow a set of civil codes, called laws. Break them, and you lose rights reserved for the lawful.

22 posted on 04/30/2003 6:06:07 AM PDT by MindBender26 (For more news as it happens, stay tuned to your local FReeper station.........)
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To: MindBender26
Where is it written? Is it in the constitution?
24 posted on 04/30/2003 6:08:08 AM PDT by sparkomatic (I wish I were gullible; then I'd be like everyone else)
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To: MindBender26
"Those rights innure to us as long as we follow a set of civil codes, called laws. Break them, and you lose rights reserved for the lawful."

I could not find innure in the dictionary. I did find inure.

The definition of "inure" is,

"To habituate to someting undesirable..."

I think you are trying to say, that our "rights" are only applicable to us as individuals "as long as we follow a ser of civil codes, called laws."

I hope not.

This would mean your 4th (unlawful search and seizure), 5th (no self-incrimination), 6th (speedy trial), and 8th (no excessive, cruel and unusual punishment) would not apply if you are prior convicted felon or for that matter if you have been accused of violating "civil codes, called laws."

I suggest you rethink your position and get back to me.

Rights are inalienable, read the preamble.

Laws cannot trump rights. Rights are not negotiable, subject to political whims, or not absolute.

If you believe otherwise, the socialist/communist over the years have gotten to you.

The closes constitutional justification for losing a "right" is in the 5th amendment:

"...nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law."

But it is inconsistent and intellectually feeble to state that only one enumerated right is denied (2nd amendment) after a felony conviction but all of the other enumerated rights, in particular 1st, 4th, 5th, 6th, 8th, and 9th, which are all individual rights, are not denied as well.

66 posted on 04/30/2003 6:36:09 AM PDT by tahiti
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