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Female oppression is not Islamic that I know. As Socrates beat his students to educate them, Islam teaches to educate women along the same lines (LOL!).. It's all in the interpretation.

Women and veils have their origins in ancient Sumeria......

The priestesses at the temples of the fertility god would have sex with worshippers. They wore a veil to not be recognized.

When they got pregnant, the infant was killed, so as not to have "god's kid" running around.........

Some centuries later, some monarch decreed that all women who have sex should wear veils. Thus the veiled married women of the area....

Also consider another reasson for the oppression of women.. Dominance of the sexes goes through very slow cycles. The dominant sex very early on was the female. Thus: mother earth.. We still have her. Guys in some areas of the middle east will not urinate standing up, but they will do it kneeling.. Out of some sort of respect for a long gone diety.. Mother earth.

Once men figured out their part in conception, however, things slowly started changing. The world over thousands of years became mostly a man's world - you can see this through the disappearance of female dieties all together, with the possible exception of Mary, who is not considered a diety, but something like the "wife" of God (take this with a grain of salt), in whose symbol the remnants of female dominance over men barely hangs on by its white knuckled hands..

It will be a long time before our image of God will be a female once again (is God a black woman?).. As I said, this is one cycle that moves extremely slow compared to other things like fashion, or what body type is considered sexy, etc.

Fascinating. You do have a lot of knowledge about history and anthropology. You set me straight on the origins of the Slavs if I remember correctly. I was impressed.

Now, I want to mention two things today, one of which pertains to females in Turkey and one of which does not. The second point pertains to incursions on the Northern border of Iraq.

First things first... I am just going to say what I read from memory and not search for the correct facts on the internet to give me a false aura of knowing what the heck is going on in Asia Minor. Here goes...

I read in the Wall Street Journal something about the Military boycotting a recent National holiday because they feared the wife of Prime Minister Erdogan would wear a veil, and since it is illegal, they did not want to be a part of the ceremonies. I am ignorant of what the celebration was about. I apoligize for my ignorance.

Ok, on to number two... Turkish Special Forces agents were intercepted trying to get to Kirkuk. They were in civilian clothes and following a supply train into the city. The US Army thinks that they were attempting to spread unrest through the ethnic Turkish population. This troubles me.

I know I might not have my facts straight as I just posted this returning from a long day at work and have not checked my sources and facts. I will add that my second point is true even if I messed up the details. A Turkish Specops team DID get detained on the Northern Iraq border. It does not surprise me but the US is reforming on the Reagan idealogy of superior Intel with a superior Military. I don't think it is wise for Turkey to be making these gestures.

I know about the Kurds and I understand the situation and it would surprise me if Turkey had NOT done this. Nevertheless, in the long run, it would be wise not to interfere with the US in Iraq.