2004 Presidential Candidate Calls for Santorum to Resign Senate Post

Guardian Unlimited UK ^ | April 23, 2003 | wire report

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Democratic Presidential candidate Howard Dean on Wednesday for Senator Rick Santorum to resign his leadership post after the lawmaker compared homosexuality to bigamy, polygamy, incest and adultery.

'Gay bashing is not a legitimate public policy discussion, it is immoral.

Rick Santorum's failure to recognize that attacking people because of who they are is morally wrong makes him unfit for a leadership position in the United States Senate.'

[dirtboy]

And more from our friend eaglebeak:

There are hateful messages broadcast on American airwaves every day. Rush Limbaugh is the prime example; he has made millions of dollars dividing people. That is his job. People love to get all wound up and imagine an enemy. He provides that for them. So who decides? You tell me.

118 posted on 04/06/2003 3:26 PM EDT by eaglebeak

Yep, he's a liberal. If he were a paleocon, he would not care about this issue so much and would consider Rush a globalist blowhard, not someone who spews hate.

He's done a fairly good job laying fairly low, but I guess Santorum just wigged him out and made him blow his cover.

[lugsoul]

Okay - I'll play your silly little game. Bigamy - that's not about sex, it's about marriage. It is not illegal to have sex with more than one person. Polygamy? Ditto. Adultery? Well, that's already legal in most states, and is unaffected by the Texas law. Incest? Among adults, it is illegal because of the genetic ramifications, not as a sexual issue.

Okay, explain to us again how "allowing" free citizens to engage in consensual adult activity in the privacy of their homes is going to "open the floodgates."

[Petronski]

[Howlin]

So I noticed.

I often wonder just how stupid these people think we are. I usually try to warn the "new ones" that are hear to tell us how it is that we expect people to be prepared to back up their remarks, i.e., don't bring a knife to a gun fight.

[Petronski]

Okay, explain to us again how "allowing" free citizens to engage in consensual adult activity in the privacy of their homes is going to "open the floodgates."

The Santorum comments are taken from the legal briefs of the State of Texas and from current case law on this matter.

[eaglebeak]

Dean is more conservative than most of the people in this forum. But he's not a fundamentalist Christian. In many respects he resembles the old conservatives. That's why he came out so harshly against this. And he's right.

[JohnnyZ]

SHUT UP TROLL!

[eaglebeak]

The Santorum comments are taken from the legal briefs of the State of Texas and from current case law on this matter

Would those also include the parts about bestiality, about what he called "man on dog"? Was the term "man on dog" also taken from the legal briefs of the State of Texas and from current case law?

[dighton]

Dean is more conservative than most of the people in this forum.

To put it in layman's terms, you're nuts.

[Petronski]

Dean is more conservative than most of the people in this forum.

[lugsoul]

Is that supposed imbue them with legitimacy? Can YOU explain how allowing anal sex between consenting adults in the privacy of their home is going to "open the floodgates?" Can you explain why it is a LEGAL difference if those people are two men, as opposed to a man or woman?

I don't care if the State of Texas argued so in its brief. Just because an argument is in a brief doesn't mean it is supportable.

[Petronski]

You'll have to do the research and let me know.

[eaglebeak]

No, I'm not alone in this. See posts #48 and #55.

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This troll is hilarious, almost 'Baghdad Bob' quality.

[ThomasMore]

'Gay bashing is not a legitimate public policy discussion, it is immoral.

Now all of a sudden this comparison about "right to privacy" is now "gay bashing". These Dems are so FULL of **it.

[Petronski]

No, I'm not alone in this. See posts #48 and #55.

What you and Lugsoul do in the privacy of your bedroom is of no concern to me, even if it includes agreeing on the arguments in this thread.

[dirtboy]

Dean is more conservative than most of the people in this forum.

That statement defies a response.

But he's not a fundamentalist Christian. In many respects he resembles the old conservatives. That's why he came out so harshly against this. And he's right.

Oh, yeah, that's right, you had this to say about your version of old-school conservatives regarding abortion last year:

And I would like to know just exactly how his goo meeting her goo to make a roughly multiple-celled, yet-to-be-developed human being is more important than those little and very conscious human beings currently crying out for help. Can anyone answer me that? Your pastor or priest may have told you that life begins with effing. But I was raised to believe that potential life (a growing embryo, fetus) is sacred for its potential, and that you're born when your born, and you die when you die. And these were the OLD conservatives talking, not the fake ones we have now who are after money and allegiance. The old ones were both religious and practical because they had to be.

Un-believable. You railed about the upcoming war with Iraq because it would, gasp, KILL some people in the process of liberating a country from a tyrant - yet you are willing to dismiss the humanity of a newly-formed fetus as little more than goo. You're pathetic.

[Mo1]

Dean is more conservative than most of the people in this forum. But he's not a fundamentalist Christian. In many respects he resembles the old conservatives. That's why he came out so harshly against this. And he's right.

BAWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ... Dean a conservative???

I'm thinking you are a bigger fool then Dean is

[JohnnyZ]

Oh no! Eaglebeak has been banned or suspended! That's so sad!

Who wants to start a petition to get him back?

[philosofy123]

It is not a non story. Our "Oprah" educated society is finished beating their chest about wining over that little insignificant country called Iraq. Now they are out for more nightly ranting about a popular issue? The guy who killed his wife in California is going to be on the menu, and any other sexual topic would increase viewers. Fags are going to get all rallied up over this, and their buddies (the democrats & media) are going to make damn sure this story will have major staying power.