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Honoring a TRAITOR? - Jane Fonda - May we NOT forget...
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| RONALD D. SAMPSON, CMSgt, USAF
Posted on 04/18/2003 9:11:01 PM PDT by davidosborne
Subj: KEEP THIS MOVING; ACROSS AMERICA HONORING A TRAITOR
This is for all the kids born in the 70's that do not remember this, and didn't have to bear the burden, that our fathers, mothers, and older brothers and sisters had to bear. Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the "100 Women of the Century." Unfortunately, many have forgotten and still countless others have never known how Ms. Fonda betrayed not only the idea of our country but specific men who served and sacrificed during Vietnam.
The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot. The pilot's name is Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat. In 1968, the former Commandant of the USAF Survival School was a POW in Ho Lo Prison-the "Hanoi Hilton." Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJ's, he was ordered to describe for a visiting American "Peace Activist" the "lenient and humane treatment" he'd received. He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and dragged away.
During the subsequent beating, he fell forward upon the camp Commandant's feet, which sent that officer berserk. In '78, the AF Col. still suffered from double vision (which permanently ended his flying days) from the Vietnamese Col.'s frenzied application of a wooden baton. >From 1963-65, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the 47FW/DO (F-4E's). He spent 6 years in the "Hilton"- the first three of which he was "missing in action". His wife lived on faith that he was still alive. His group, too, got the cleaned, fed, clothed routine in preparation for a "peace delegation" visit.
They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to the world that they still survived. Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, with his SSN on it, in the palm of his hand. When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each man's hand and asking little encouraging snippets like: "Aren't you sorry you bombed babies?" and "Are you grateful for the humane treatment from your benevolent captors?" Believing this HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of paper.
She took them all without missing a beat. At the end of the line and once the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she turned to the officer in charge and handed him the little pile of papers. Three men died from the subsequent beatings. Col. Carrigan was almost number four but he survived, which is the only reason we know about her actions that day.
I was a civilian economic development advisor in Vietnam, and was captured by the North Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in 1968, and held for over 5 years. I spent 27 months in solitary confinement, one year in a cage in Cambodia, and one year in a "black box" in Hanoi. My North Vietnamese captors deliberately poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a leprosarium in Ban me Thuot, South Vietnam, whom I buried in the jungle near the Cambodian border. At one time, I was weighing approximately 90 lbs. (My normal weight is 170 lbs.) We were Jane Fonda's "war criminals."
When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by the camp communist political officer if I would be willing to meet with Jane Fonda. I said yes, for I would like to tell her about the real treatment we POWs received different from the treatment purported by the North Vietnamese, and parroted by Jane Fonda, as "humane and lenient." Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor on my knees with outstretched arms with a large amount of steel placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane till my arms dipped.
I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda for a couple of hours after I was released. I asked her if she would be willing to debate me on TV. She did not answer me.
This does not exemplify someone who should be honored as part of "100 Years of Great Women." Lest we forget..."100 years of great women" should never include a traitor whose hands are covered with the blood of so many patriots. There are few things I have strong visceral reactions to, but Hanoi Jane's participation in blatant treason, is one of them.
Please take the time to forward to as many people as you possibly can. It will eventually end up on her computer and she needs to know that we will never forget.
RONALD D. SAMPSON, CMSgt, USAF
716 Maintenance Squadron, Chief of Maintenance
DSN: 875-6431
COMM: 883-6343
ronald.sampson@eglin.af.mil
Tom Eastmond Manager, Financial Systems Brookdale Community College 732-224-2325 fax 732-224-2212
TOPICS: Editorial; US: Florida; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: janefonda
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To: JennieOsborne; /\XABN584; 10mm; 3D-JOY; 75thOVI; 5Madman; <1/1,000,000th%; 11B3; 1Peter2:16; ...
pass it on....
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posted on
04/18/2003 9:14:10 PM PDT
by
davidosborne
(www.davidosborne.net)
To: davidosborne
Actually this has been passed on for quite a while. I got it last summer, if memory serves.
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posted on
04/18/2003 9:19:13 PM PDT
by
JoJo Gunn
(Help control the Leftist population. Have them spayed or neutered....)
To: davidosborne
It's being circulated in cyberland because I received it last week in an email. Lest we ever forget what Hanoi Jane (and others like her) did to our brave and patriotic soldiers and our country.
To: davidosborne
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posted on
04/18/2003 9:20:26 PM PDT
by
JoJo Gunn
(Help control the Leftist population. Have them spayed or neutered....)
To: JoJo Gunn
This is the first e-mail I have recieved on this specific issue.. however I am well aware of the history of Jane Fonda... just thought we could all use a reminder, as this e-mail struck a nerve with me again...
FReegards,
David
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posted on
04/18/2003 9:23:57 PM PDT
by
davidosborne
(www.davidosborne.net)
To: davidosborne
As a Marine who served in Nam in 67-68, I can tell you that I hate fonda with all of my heart. I believe she will ,at some future time, pay for the deaths she caused. I do not think about her very often, but when this traiter comes up, I have a strong opinion.
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posted on
04/18/2003 9:26:59 PM PDT
by
ditto h
To: JoJo Gunn
Thanks for the link...
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posted on
04/18/2003 9:33:01 PM PDT
by
davidosborne
(www.davidosborne.net)
To: davidosborne
Good fodder to send to young Americans, thanks.
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posted on
04/18/2003 9:34:22 PM PDT
by
Ethyl
To: davidosborne
To add insult to injury, when American POWs finally began to return home (some of them having been held captive for up to nine years) and describe the tortures they had endured at the hands of the North Vietnamese, Jane Fonda quickly told the country that they should "not hail the POWs as heroes, because they are hypocrites and liars." Fonda said the idea that the POWs she had met in Vietnam had been tortured was "laughable," claiming: "These were not men who had been tortured. These were not men who had been starved. These were not men who had been brainwashed." The POWs who said they had been tortured were "exaggerating, probably for their own self-interest," she asserted. She told audiences that "Never in the history of the United States have POWs come home looking like football players. These football players are no more heroes than Custer was. They're military careerists and professional killers" who are "trying to make themselves look self-righteous, but they are war criminals according to law."
the above is an exerpt from: Hanoi'd with Jane (Snopes.com)
old FONDA urinal target
new FONDA urinal target
FONDA exercise urinal target
FONDA mug shot
hanoi jane FONDA on a AAA mount
the real (gak) FONDA
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posted on
04/18/2003 10:02:51 PM PDT
by
glock rocks
( pray for our men and women in harms way -- God bless America)
To: davidosborne
This story is a hoax that's been circulating for years. Check the Urban Legends link above. Please, folks, there are more than enough real reasons to hate Jane Fonda without citing bogus ones that make it look like you don't do your homework.
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posted on
04/18/2003 10:09:23 PM PDT
by
HHFi
To: davidosborne
BTTT!!!!!!!
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posted on
04/19/2003 5:36:15 AM PDT
by
E.G.C.
To: davidosborne; All
she turned to the officer in charge and handed him the little pile of papers No, don't- this is complete bullshit. Never happened. It's been debunked on this board many, many times.
To: JoJo Gunn
Who runs urban legends . com? Are they a trustworthty group? What Jane did do will never be forgotton.
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posted on
04/19/2003 7:11:51 AM PDT
by
maccraze
(maccraze@adelphia.net)
To: davidosborne
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posted on
04/19/2003 7:18:13 AM PDT
by
arasina
("Thank you Mister Bush!" [direct quote from liberated Iraqi man])
To: fourdeuce82d; All
I believe the info on Urban Legends is credible, and I would tend to lean on their expertise in sorting out fact and fiction.. The only reason I posted it was beacuase it struck a nerve when I read it.. admitidly for the FIRST time... I DO NOT pass any judgement as to its acurracy but I still think it was worth reading, if for no other reason... MAY WE NEVER FORGET!!
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posted on
04/19/2003 9:20:52 AM PDT
by
davidosborne
(www.davidosborne.net)
To: HHFi
that make it look like you don't do your homeworkSee post 16
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posted on
04/19/2003 9:22:37 AM PDT
by
davidosborne
(www.davidosborne.net)
To: maccraze
What Jane did do will never be forgotton.Amen..
FReegards,
David
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posted on
04/19/2003 9:24:56 AM PDT
by
davidosborne
(www.davidosborne.net)
To: davidosborne
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posted on
04/19/2003 9:27:06 PM PDT
by
Coleus
(RU-486 Kills Babies)
To: davidosborne
I dislike Jane Fonda as much as the next guy but this is not true. It has been debunked.
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posted on
04/19/2003 9:32:43 PM PDT
by
Tribune7
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