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Children's Nursery Rhyme Triggers Racial Discrimination Lawsuit
CNSNews.com ^ | April 16, 2003 | Marc Morano

Posted on 04/17/2003 6:18:32 AM PDT by Pern

(CNSNews.com) - A Southwest Airlines flight attendant's use of a popular children's rhyme - "Eenie, meenie, minie, moe" - has resulted in a federal racial discrimination lawsuit against the airline filed by two African American women asking for unspecified financial damages.

One of the two women suing over the allegedly offensive nursery rhyme claims hearing the rhyme caused her to be bedridden for three days and suffer from "unexplained memory gaps," according to court documents.

The trial was supposed to start Tuesday in Kansas City, Kan., but U.S. District Court Judge Kathryn Vratil delayed the case until Sept. 29.

Southwest Airline passengers Louise Sawyer and Grace Fuller allege they suffered racial discrimination on the flight in February 2001 when flight attendant Jennifer Cundiff said over the plane's intercom, "Eenie, meenie, minie, moe; pick a seat, we gotta go." The two women say they were the only passengers standing in the aisle at the time.

Sawyer and Fuller said that as soon as they heard the rhyme, they were reminded of the racist version that starts with the phrase: "Eenie, meenie, minie, moe; catch a n***** by his toe ..."

A more modern version of the nursery rhyme substitutes the offensive phrase with the words, "Catch a tiger by the toe." The rhyme is traditionally used by children to pick someone who will be "it." According to at least one word and phrase historian, the original rhyme using the n-word dates back to about the mid-19th century.

Sawyer and Fuller, who are sisters, had also originally alleged physical and emotional distress as a result of the nursery rhyme but earlier this year, Judge Vratil dismissed that aspect of the lawsuit, narrowing the complaint to the issue of discrimination.

"The court agrees with the plaintiffs that because of its history, the phrase 'eenie, meenie, minie, moe' could reasonably be viewed as objectively racist and offensive," Vratil stated in court papers. "The jury, however, must decide whether Cundiff's remark was racist or simply a benign and innocent attempt at humor."

Cundiff, who is white, disputes that Sawyer and Fuller were the only ones standing on the crowded flight. Cundiff said she had been using the rhyme on several different flights as a humorous way to get passengers to sit. Southwest Airlines employees are known for their folksy manner and casual atmosphere.

Scott A. Wissel, the Kansas City, Mo., attorney representing Sawyer and Fuller, declined to comment for this article.

But according to court documents, Sawyer said she was "infuriated by the [nursery rhyme] comment" and said fellow passengers giggled after it was said, making her feel alienated.

'Unexplained Memory Gaps'

Fuller believes Cundiff intentionally singled out her and her sister. "It was like I was too dumb to find a seat," Fuller complained in the court papers.

Fuller, who has epilepsy, said she was so unnerved by the nursery rhyme that her hands trembled during the trip and she has experienced "unexplained memory gaps" about the flight ever since.

Fuller also maintains that the nursery rhyme incident caused her to be bedridden for three days because she suffered a "grand mal seizure." However, Fuller said she could not medically verify the incident because as a result of lacking health insurance, she did not seek medical help for the seizure.

Cundiff wrote a report about the incident as part of a Southwest Airlines' internal investigation.

"The statement I made on Flight 524 was not racist or discriminating, and I am offended that because I have white skin, suddenly I am a racist," Cundiff wrote. "Maybe those that run around pointing fingers yelling racist should stop and turn that finger around."

Southwest agreed with Cundiff and does not believe the phrase was racist or that she acted inappropriately. Even though Southwest did not ask her to stop saying the rhyme, Cundiff said she stopped because of the controversy.

Wissel said he is trying to get the courts to prohibit Southwest Airlines employees from using the nursery rhyme and force the airline to provide employee training to prevent future racial controversies.

Wissel's clients, Sawyer and Fuller, are seeking an unspecified financial amount in compensatory and punitive damages.

'Ridiculous Lawsuit'

The lawsuit has provided critics of the American legal system more ammunition for their tort reform battle.

"Seems sort of a ridiculous lawsuit, but this is the rise of this litigious culture, where people look to sue at the most insignificant remark," said Steve Lilienthal, spokesman for the Free Congress Foundation (FCF). The group just hosted a seminar last week on Capitol Hill focusing on what it considers the explosion of frivolous lawsuits in America.

"There is no real racist connotation in the phrase. How can you view [that phrase] as being racist? It just doesn't make sense. Most people would look at this lawsuit and be dumbfounded," Lilienthal said.

He sees this lawsuit as part of a larger cultural problem, "one more sign of people who are simply looking to sue," Lilienthal explained. "There is a whole grievance industry set up based on the increasing use of litigation."

This is not the first time the "eenie, meenie, minie, moe" nursery rhyme has come under fire. In 2002, government officials in University City, Mo., a suburb of St. Louis, printed a calendar that had a cover photo of the feet of five children, one bare and the others with shoes with a caption reading, "Eeny ... meeny ... miny ... moe" (alternate spelling). Most of the kids in the photo were African American.

After a city employee complained that the calendar was racially offensive, the city reprinted all 18,000 copies of the calendar with the photo deleted, according to the Kansas City Star.


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: eenie; lawsuit; lawsuitabuse; meenie; memoryloss; minie; moe; questionofsanity; racebaiting; racialdivision; racism
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To: Lijahsbubbe
I know she filed a lawsuit because a young woman recited a nursery rhyme and she decided the woman didn't really say what she said - but said something else. Now she is the one who read the young woman's mind.

If that woman had to go to bed because someone recited a nursery rhyme, she either has problems no amount of money will help, and she had better stay home with no contact to the outside world or she is attempting a shakedown, or both.

Unless the article is not true, she filed a ridiculous lawsuit and she is attempting a shakedown. She is attacking a young woman.

That I know - that she told us in the lawsuit.

122 posted on 04/17/2003 7:02:29 PM PDT by nanny
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To: Lijahsbubbe
"You don't know her motives or intents. You can state your opinion, but you don't know (unless you're a mind reader)."

NEWS FLASH: We CAN connect two dots...

You, on the otherhand, must have graduated with high honors from the 'Baghdad-Bob' School of Investigative Reporting.

123 posted on 04/18/2003 8:56:25 AM PDT by F16Fighter (Democrats -- The Party of Stalin and Chiraq)
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To: F16Fighter
Your post doesn't make sense. I never claimed to investigate anything. You're the one who claims to know things you have no factual basis for, as if you had investigated.

At any rate, your posts don't indicate a desire to debate, just an excuse to throw around little insults which are really sorry.

We can connect two dots...Can you two connect dots? My, I'm proud of you!Har har har (laughing like Goofy) There. I'm sure that's more your level.

124 posted on 04/18/2003 9:29:18 AM PDT by Lijahsbubbe
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To: nanny
Good point, she is speculating on what the attendant's intentions were. But anyone speculating on the woman's reason's for filing are guessing also.
125 posted on 04/18/2003 9:35:34 AM PDT by Lijahsbubbe
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To: Flightdeck
Last election year, trial lawyers gave $15,000,000 to the democratic party and $13,500 to the republicans.

The trial lawyers are very niggardly toward the pubs.

126 posted on 04/18/2003 9:45:12 AM PDT by kevao
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To: Pern
"You tell 'em girl, don't give in to their "BLACKMAIL?"" Blackmail? How insensitive of you!! Oh god... I'm having mental anguish, you racially slurred me... I'll be in bed for three days... how will I pick up my welfare check???
127 posted on 04/18/2003 10:04:08 AM PDT by ladywolf
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To: Lijahsbubbe
No I am not speculating. She said she was horribly injured and had to be bedridden because this person repeated a nursery rhyme, which she chose to interpret as racist?, and she feels she should be compensated from the company and ultimately the American people for it. Those are the facts she stated. That is absurd and either she is a very disturbed person or she is attempting a shakedown. She said it in her own words.

If she were just offended by what she thought this person actually meant, she might have just called the airlines an voiced her complaint. Instead, an apology is only an apology if it is accompanied by millions of dollars - and you don't call that a shakedown? You understand neither the airlines, the attendant, nor the American people did anything wrong. The wrongdoing was on the part of the person doing the suing. She is the one who made something racist of it - no one else and she wants money for that? What exactly would you call this but a shakedown?

128 posted on 04/18/2003 10:23:33 AM PDT by nanny
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To: RGSpincich
Gee. Sure hope they don't start suing the Ice Cream Man next... I mean, "Turkey In The Straw" started off as a coon song, after all.

I think what we really need in this country is that if someone files a BS lawsuit like this, THEY are responsible for all the costs - in fact, throw some punative damages at them just for being A-holes.

Then again, they might get an O.J.-type jury, who will give the person a couple of trillion dollars in damages. Hmm. So maybe the answer is just to get rid of liberals, period, so they don't appoint any more liberal judges who will allow such a thing.

129 posted on 04/18/2003 10:28:51 AM PDT by Pravious
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To: nanny
The American people? She didn't accuse the American people. Do you see her as separate from the American people?

Where do you get the millions of dollars figure? More
speculation.

No matter what you claim, you don't know how she feels or what her motives are. Whether you agree with the suit or not.




130 posted on 04/18/2003 10:39:07 AM PDT by Lijahsbubbe
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To: Lijahsbubbe
"I've been real the whole thread."

What?
131 posted on 04/18/2003 10:49:46 AM PDT by PatrioticAmerican (If the only purpose of assault weapons is to kill lots of people quickly, why do police have them?)
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To: Lijahsbubbe
A corporation is just something created on paper - it owns nothing - the stockholders own it - that is Americans. When those people are sued and must pay for these extortion attempts then the stockholders must absorb the lose. Now the people who run these corporations for the stockholders want to keep the stockholders happy - so they charge the American public more - you see that bad old corporation is on paper - the American public pays for these shakedowns.

All I know is what the woman has done and said or what was reported. Now if the report was wrong, I stand corrected - if the report was right - she is nothing but an attempted extortionist. That I know - she has told me as such.

Now rather than just say I don't know anything about here - refute what the report said or why what she is doing is not a shakedown? Please don't keep repeating I don't know anything about her. If you do know something about her - clue me in.

You are right though, I don't remember the amount of money involved - but would you like to bet if she wins, by the time it is over - it will have cost the American public more than a millions dollars - now we are talking legal fees, court costs, etc. So yes, it was guess - but a guess based upon common knowledge.

132 posted on 04/18/2003 11:32:07 AM PDT by nanny
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To: Lijahsbubbe
How do you know who's on welfare where you live? Do you work for Human Services? If they're poor, how do you know they're not working poor? Have you been in everyone's house, seen their checks?

Welll, Duhhhhh again. How do you know they are Not on welfare? Do YOU work for welfare?

133 posted on 04/18/2003 11:41:16 AM PDT by shiva
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To: Puddleglum
__Funny, on "Celebrity Mole" a few months ago, I saw a black person using this same nursery rhyme when trying to decide who the mole was. Odd. __

Yes, and information that should come out in court. I think the flight attendant should sue for the problems that have come about in her life. And they are significant and DELIBERATELY caused by the two waterbuffalos.

BTW, just TRY to make "waterbuffalo" into a racist term. Aint gonna happen!
134 posted on 04/18/2003 11:49:50 AM PDT by Not Insane
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To: auggy
It was in Ann Coulter's latest book, Slander. I borrowed it to read and returned it, so I couldn't give you a page no.
135 posted on 04/18/2003 1:53:52 PM PDT by Flightdeck
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To: Flightdeck
That's OK. I will have to get her book and read it myself. Thanks for the reply.
136 posted on 04/18/2003 8:04:49 PM PDT by auggy
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