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AMENDMENT IV - The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

AMENDMENT V - No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

The law is very clear and easy to read. People who embrace this garbage show nothing but contempt for the law and everything that's made this country great. It's outrageous that they're even thinking about a Patriot II. Patriot I was enough of an anti-liberty, anti-American POS.

Bottom line, the executive and police want to be able to "declare" whoever they like a terrorist, search and seize whatever or whoever they like without such petty encumberances such as a nosey court, lawyer, family member or the constitution getting in the way.

Can someone tell me why it's now legal for bureaucrats to rob houses and hack computers without notification? The constitution is very clear on this. Why is it they can now log all of your credit card purchases and tap your phone without notice? Why is it we're forfeiting our property and vehicles without being convicted of anything? How did we get to the point where we've allowed undereducated, underpaid, dumbass bureacrats to go through our lives, at will without warrant.

People who support such measures don't deserve to be Americans IMO.

Some of us have become ignorant slobs who are fine with all of this as long as they're well fed and given the illusion that freak-boy Ashcroft is keeping them safe. Disgusting.

One of the things I heard about the Patriot act was that now the FBI could actually read the newspaper and follow leads from that now. Seems silly to me they couldn't before.

Better watch what you post here on FR from now on. I know I am. lol ! < /sarcasm >

The law is very clear and easy to read.
People who embrace this garbage show nothing
but contempt for the law and everything
that's made this country great

Everything in that post was
Well said Triple A !

.....THUNDER......

The constitution is very clear on this. Why is it they can now log all of your credit card purchases and tap your phone without notice?

OK. If it is so specific, please cite it. Or shut up!