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The News We (CNN) Kept To Ourselves [must read]
The New York Times ^ | 04/11/03 | EASON JORDAN

Posted on 04/10/2003 9:16:06 PM PDT by Pokey78

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To: Victoria Delsoul
I can't really fault Eason Jordan for not reporting these particular atrocities for fear of retaliation against these individuals' families and/or retaliation against CNN reporters stationed in Iraq.

I can.

Jordan should have shut down the Baghdad Bureau of CNN and gotten out. He stayed while covering up for Hussein. He's complicit. He should never work in journalism again.




1,421 posted on 04/11/2003 8:20:44 PM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: wolf6656
What did CBS do to get the Dan Rather interview with Saddam?

What does ABC do to get a story? What does NBC do? How far will they go? How believable is ANY report coming out of Syria, Iran, North Korea? How about reporting from CUBA recently that is just sucking up to Castro??

If this were, say, an oil company, this wouldn't be tolerable. But for a NEWS organization, it is just plain unacceptable.

This goes WAY beyond a liberal slant, and it makes me feel sick.
1,422 posted on 04/11/2003 8:21:18 PM PDT by hripka (There are a lot of smart people out there in FReeperLand)
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To: texasbluebell
<< Well, that about covers the beeb! You were too kind by half to them too... >>

Yair.

Right on!

[HehHehHeh ..... ]
1,423 posted on 04/11/2003 8:27:01 PM PDT by Brian Allen (I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny ....)
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To: Pokey78
I knew that CNN could not report that Saddam Hussein's eldest son, Uday, told me in 1995 that he intended to assassinate two of his brothers-in-law who had defected and also the man giving them asylum, King Hussein of Jordan. If we had gone with the story, I was sure he would have responded by killing the Iraqi translator who was the only other participant in the meeting.

Given that there are over 1400 responses in this thread as I post this, I doubt I'm the first one to point this out, but if so, it bears repeating. Has this moron stopped to think about WHY Uday felt comfortable telling CNN that he planned to assassinate a foreign head of state and murder two other men? If I were planning something like that, I wouldn't tell my Mom, much less someone who could disclose it to TV viewers all over the planet! Bottom line: For one reason or another, Uday saw CNN as a bunch of fellow travelers at best, and allies in the terrorist war against civilization at worst. One of the worst murderers on the planet thought Eason Jordan was his tool and/or good buddy, and he was right. Jordan did what a tool and/or good buddy would do: He covered Uday's butt.

1,424 posted on 04/11/2003 8:36:49 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Take that, Arab street!)
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To: Howlin
You might ask Diogenesis to ping his list, too. I think his GOTTA SEE THIS list is pretty big!
1,425 posted on 04/11/2003 8:42:17 PM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Contribute soon so the Freepathon can be over and we can stop seeing all these puke liberals!)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion; Diogenesis
I'll do it!

Diogenesis, can you ping your list to this article?
1,426 posted on 04/11/2003 8:43:23 PM PDT by Howlin (It's a great day to be an American -- or an Iraqi!)
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To: Sabertooth
Jordan should have shut down the Baghdad Bureau of CNN and gotten out. He stayed while covering up for Hussein. He's complicit. He should never work in journalism again.

That wasn't a decision for him alone to make unless he owned CNN. If you are going to blame Jordan, you should also blame other reporters from different news organization. He wasn't the only one who knew.

Obviously, other news organizations were in the same bind we were when it came to reporting on their own workers.

We also had to worry that our reporting might endanger Iraqis not on our payroll. I knew that CNN could not report that Saddam Hussein's eldest son, Uday, told me in 1995 that he intended to assassinate two of his brothers-in-law who had defected and also the man giving them asylum, King Hussein of Jordan. If we had gone with the story, I was sure he would have responded by killing the Iraqi translator who was the only other participant in the meeting. After all, secret police thugs brutalized even senior officials of the Information Ministry, just to keep them in line (one such official has long been missing all his fingernails).

Still, I felt I had a moral obligation to warn Jordan's monarch, and I did so the next day. King Hussein dismissed the threat as a madman's rant. A few months later Uday lured the brothers-in-law back to Baghdad; they were soon killed

He did alert King Hussein.
1,427 posted on 04/11/2003 8:47:12 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Victoria Delsoul
That wasn't a decision for him alone to make unless he owned CNN. If you are going to blame Jordan, you should also blame other reporters from different news organization. He wasn't the only one who knew.

Very true, CNN needs a wall-to-wall housecleaning. These people need to be publicly shamed and shunned.




1,428 posted on 04/11/2003 8:49:49 PM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: Victoria Delsoul
Why didn't Jordan/CNN alert Uday's two brothers-in-law?
1,429 posted on 04/11/2003 8:50:56 PM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: Fred Mertz
I understand that they were out of the country.
1,430 posted on 04/11/2003 8:53:29 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Sabertooth
I agree. Whew! ;-)
1,431 posted on 04/11/2003 8:54:08 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Victoria Delsoul
But CNN is all over the globe. I think you brought up an excellent point above. I'm trying to expand it a bit.
1,432 posted on 04/11/2003 8:55:53 PM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
Good question!!!
1,433 posted on 04/11/2003 8:57:53 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: Fred Mertz
But CNN is all over the globe.

Yes, that's true. However, I don't know how easy it is to find someone in hiding, even for CNN.

1,434 posted on 04/11/2003 9:03:22 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Bump!
1,435 posted on 04/11/2003 9:09:36 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Almondjoy
Human right organizations have more than adquate examples of what Saddam's regime did. (snip)...they put their spin on it sure but there were also the only eyes in ears the western media had in iraq..

And exactly what kind of "eyes and ears" were these? You say everyone knew about what Saddam was up to and that there was no point in CNN talking about it. I ask you, what exactly was so newsworthy about showing government-approved clips of Saddam firing a rifle in the air to rally his thugs? What was so important about telling us stories about how Saddam was so loved by the Iraqi people that 100 percent of them "voted" for him in the last "election"? Especially when it turns out that these stories were nothing but a crock of shit, and especially when CNN was treating Saddam with more deference and respect than our own President Bush? What was so important - why, CNN's reputation of being the only news organization with "access" to Baghdad.

Sorry, but in my book, looking the other way while incredible atrocities are taking place, just so you can win a "mine's bigger than yours" argument with your rivals, is about as low as you can go. And this so-called self-serving "apology," dumped onto the op-ed pages of the premier left-wing propaganda sheet in the land on a Friday, doubtless as pre-emptive damage control and doubtless in the hopes that by the end of the weekend it will have disappeared down the memory hole, doesn't even begin to come close to making up for what CNN has done for the last 12 years of Saddam Hussein's rule.

...regardless of whether you like their style that was important for the world to have.

Let me tell you something - as much as I love Fox News, if they had behaved as selfishly and as unconcernedly for basic human decency as CNN has done here, I would be just as hard on them, and I sure as hell would no longer be watching them!

1,436 posted on 04/11/2003 9:13:49 PM PDT by CFC__VRWC
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To: Pokey78
Bumping to read when I have hours!
1,437 posted on 04/11/2003 9:15:11 PM PDT by Alissa
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To: diamond6
I think you like the attention of being a social malcontent but I'll try to fit you into my busy schedule . On a side note I think in your life you dont seem to qualify .

I'm not capable

So what .

Guess again . Better yet read a few books .

I read your previous post .

I see you disagree and add another disclaimer . You warm the cockles of me heart . Here we go again . Yes I think . I deal in the real world . Aggresively reporting .

No doubt you will read this and wonder . I think the same thing about you .

1,438 posted on 04/11/2003 9:18:57 PM PDT by Ben Bolt (Dont call me .)
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To: oldmanlegg
"I keep thinking, did CNN or one of the other networks know about 9/11 in advance?"

That is an incredible thought..I can't even contemplate the consequences if true.

1,440 posted on 04/11/2003 9:25:49 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8 (Please pray for our troops.... http://anyservicemember.navy.mil/)
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