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***Operation Iraqi Freedom - Situation Room - Day 23 - LIVE THREAD***
Everywhere! | 11 APR 03 | An.American.Expatriate

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To: Carolina; Hillarys Gate Cult
I distinctly remember Bush saying one of the coalition's goals/aims was to keep intact IRAQI BORDERS. Kirkuk is well within the Iraqi border. So, what's the turk's confusion here? Kirkuk is Iraqi soil.....it doesn't belong to Turkey.
781 posted on 04/11/2003 4:49:05 AM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: Fledermaus
Imagine PETA morphing into PETT...People for the Ethical Treatment of Tribbles, or ANSWER morphing into Advance Stellar Socialism, NAACP morphing into UAAGP to protest the chauvenistic treatment of green people.

Protesters chaining their little solar-powered spaceships to space station airlocks, transporting themselves naked into startled primitive alien cities that aren't ready for first contact, teaching Ferengi youth to sing Kumbaya, making Klingons attend sensitivity training seminars, demanding phaser registration and trigger locks, rousing human shields to protecting Borg cubes, etc.

782 posted on 04/11/2003 4:49:18 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: nicmarlo
Explain to me what right the TURKS have in IRAQ????

None. But they think they do and there lies the problem. The funny thing is if they let us set up a Northern attack through Turkey, we wouldn't have had to rely on the Kurds so much. We need to keep Turkey out of the North until we can build up more forces there. Then we can tell them to stuff it.

783 posted on 04/11/2003 4:49:19 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult ("Read Hillary's hips. I never had sex with that woman.")
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult; Carolina
I remember hearing yesterday that the US asked the Kurds to withdraw from Kirkuk.....correct?
784 posted on 04/11/2003 4:51:07 AM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo
I heard we replaced the Kurds there with our troops, or said we would.
785 posted on 04/11/2003 4:52:35 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: nicmarlo
I remember hearing yesterday that the US asked the Kurds to withdraw from Kirkuk.....correct?

That's what I remember. The Turks were threatening to send in Army observers. Colin got on the phone to Ankara.

786 posted on 04/11/2003 4:53:07 AM PDT by Carolina
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To: nicmarlo
Big escape of Cole suspects(Al Quida). 10 of them
787 posted on 04/11/2003 4:53:13 AM PDT by MEG33
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To: Carolina
CENTCOM - Fri. Apr. 11:
 
Brig. Gen. Vincent Brooks
 
Regime leadership and contol structures have been broken throughout most of the country..
 
In general terms, the coalition efforts have centered on increasing security, while looking for remaining bad guys...
 
We remember and honor our fallen.
 
Our coalition Spec. Forces had busy day...
 
Baghdad: Spec. Ops entered Abu Garet prison complex,,,capacity to hold 15,000 prisoners...it was empty...think some were released..
 
in W. took captive a Iraqi Colonel...who controled border crossing point....Coalition now controls crossing point..
 
Coal. Spec. Ops had small firefight...after, found 5 small airplanes covered w/ camof....all were destroyed..
 
Coal. Spec. Fprces supported by Kurds and 173rd Airborne...entered Kirkuk...secured, and secured oil lines....4 of gas plaints and several wells have been secured so far...this oil field like the fields in the s. a key part of Iraqi resources..
 
Nr. Mosul...accepted surrender...following period of bombing, close air support...cease fire signed by commander...5th corp expected to leave battlefield..many Iraqi forces have removed uniforms and walked home as we requested...
 
Pics:
 
Karbala efforts - 101st Airborne entered...university complex...public ed. locations used as storage..found ammo, milit. records...
 
Baghdad - ops continue to clear remaining elements...our efforts are to increase stability in areas we've moved to...vehicle explosion in NE area...on edge of Saddam City...that and clearance of minefield along highway 8 - over 350 mines harvested...serve as a reminder that Baghdad is a very dangerous place...map shows new areas where we've conducted ops...we know that ops can only be sustained w/ focused logistics effort -
 
Pic: Nasiryah...small base, mobil for supplies...materials are organized, moved forward in convoys...units that transport supplies able to protect themselves and base....combat systems...like Marine LAR provide security for supply trains...
 
Continue to commun. w/ Iraqi people...world news telecasts started...added to leaflets and radio broadcast...
 
Coalition gov. have identified 55 indiv. who must be pursued, killed and captured...does not include those who have already been (killed, capt)....(55 cards in a deck distributed to our troops...mini- wanted "posters"..to help find them)..
 
We continue to attend needs of Iraqi people that we encounter...pic of doctors treating...video of field med. hospital established nr. An Nasiryah...there is surgical capability in most of these....received water and food rations from coalition and non-coalition nations...and Red Cross..Pics of Kuwaiti delievery, and of vessel - 700 metric tons of food, water coming aboard from United Arab Emirates...video: Nasiryah food delivery...coalition provided...scenes like these are happening more and more throughout the liberated areas of Iraq..
 
Questions:
 
"The explosion that occured yesterday...nr. Saddam City...4 Marines and one med. personnel..injured...reminds us that there are threats out there...it will take a lot of time to get that done...re. minefield on highway....that minefield has been cleared...it remains a very dangerous area...we don't believe it was a new minefield...
 
"There are jokers in this deck there's no doubt about that (the "wanted" bad guys)...re. looting....people are celebrating...it's a tough issue to address...simply putting police on the street is not an easy solution...the Iraqi people have to make some decisions for themselves...(there are locals ding this...help from 'mayors'. etc..)...that will come over time...we have to be patient...we are not exercising a grip over the population (that the regime did)...that is by design...
 
"As time goes on and more organization occurs in and among the citizens...more things will be controlled by Iraqi population.
 
"It's a very important outcome that has occured (in most of the areas in the north...there are places we haven't yet been)..while the conventional military force appears to be moving further...away from battle, and that risk to the people subsides...there are (other pockets of bad guys)..Spec. Forces continue...and help of the Iraqi people...
 
Re. looting in archeological. areas? "We have no reports of looting (in these areas...reminds reporter that regime has placed military equip, abused these sites...)....Basrah...where looting has been reported...bank robbers were not tolerated, were shot...and looting went down a lot...there are certain behaviors that are not tolerated..and the Iraqi people are not tolerating....
 
"We have a variety of sources...tell us about attempts to leave (escaping bad guys)...we try to look for places where there's likely movement...we take action to prevent that from occuring....re. the 55 bad guys...when we believe a member to be dead...we believe a member of population will confirm....there are some we're not sure (whether dead or alive)..
 
Re. assassination of Clerics: "We will provide the list in next 24 hours (55 bad guys)...
The unfortunate loss of (Cleric) we find this very disappointing. He was recognized as a leader. He was courageous..we don't have the whole stoyr...we don't want to itnerfere w/ the Iraqi population...we don't believe that (our itnerfering, providing security in this case),..would have been appropriate...we provide (security) whereever we can...as to who (killed him)...we don't know, whether it was a grudge...it could destabilize...we will continue to look into it...seek the assist. of Iraqi population...
 
Re. Kofi liar  ignoring the daily major humanitarian efforts of US!: "W are applying every part of the Gen. Conv. whereve we are...(there are those that don't...some of them are still out there...we would expect behaviors of those ot come to an end...) certainly we (he's going fast...angry, good...detailing the care we provide..)reports of looting of hospital...a very small representation that's getting more attention than it deserves...but (where it creates problems...we provide assistance....socialist anti-American groups like Red Cross and Doctors w/out Borders with a crisis of perspective)..
 
Re. WMDs...same message as yesterday and day before and day before..."The closer we get to regime elements...the more we find pieces of evidence...mosaic...one piece of evidence...joined w/ other from different time, ..yield more info...very deliberate plan...ongoing ops right now....seeking info from others...that will lead us to more info...it's here...it will take time...
 
"We believe that Baghdad Int'l Airport can be made useful soon...to bring in (humanitarian aircraft..)...will be done at a degree of risk...we'll do all we can to protect those aircraft...it will be selectively done...soon...
 
"We've cooperated w/ Mr. Celabi on a number of occasions...he's one of many leaders interested in the future of Iraq...in the interrum between now and (future gov. by Iraqis...we must get rid of bad guys)..so future of Iraq, under Iraqi leaders, can come sooner...(re. Celabi supposedly saying US should have nothing to do w/ Iraqi future accord. to Brit. reporter)...
 
El Qa'im (sp)...strategically important..."We know it was historically involved (w/ missiles fired on neighbors)..and may be WMD site, also critical crossroads to Syria...we have not secured yet...geographically significant and operationally significant..."
 
Re. TV broadcasts...electricity? "We recognize that there are some areas that don't have television...we know hat there are (areas they get us...we've controlled one TV station...over a week in some areas...there are some generators...) Radio broadcasts cover whole country ..for some time 5 diff. channels, 24/7...re. assistance...all those that we encounter...we provide assistance...(details...of coalition forces acting courageously to provide assistants..."We're not counting. We're acting."
 
Re. Saddam..."While we say that the individual is not the most important (focus)...we remain consistant in (focus to remove regime and anything that props the regime up)..we'll attack (key leaders...)..some of them have occured by way fo strikes, some by air...(Saddam) is one of many that we seek to remove from power..and to be certain of it..
 
Another looting question from a Newsday reporter (let's give em small arms..let the people defend themselves - let the press explode - (mine)) "If the coalition simply imposed control on the population...that would NOT achieve the desired effect...at no point do we see..becoming a police force" (we take actions to achieve stability...will have help from locals, they will build own police...we focus on removing bad guys..)..
 
Re. seeing the statue come down in Baghdad: "We are pleased that the population saw fit to physically remove the images of Saddam Hussein.." "You know that generals don't have personal feelings.(laugh)..I was personally excited about it...and quickly got over it.."
 
"We can't be everywhere in the country...on operational level...(dealing with countries that might provide sanctuary for bad guys belongs to other gov. departments).....we look at places where there might be movement...we make it undesirable to move to certain area...try to head things off...re. Iran...no specific info...when people flee for their lives....irrational...I wouldn't rule anything out..."

788 posted on 04/11/2003 4:53:18 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl (The time is long overdue to stop taking the media, as well as the U.N., so seriously.-Thomas Sowell)
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To: null and void
10 main suspects in USS Cole bombing escape Yemeni prison, including the one suspected of being the ringleader. (FoxNews)
789 posted on 04/11/2003 4:53:31 AM PDT by TomGuy
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Whoa, someone's fudging the truth. It's taken me about 10 minutes to get up and get the puter running but if someone was watching BBC I'd like confirmation. BBC World and FNC both had LIVE events. FNC had Brooks in the middle of Centcom meeting but BBC was showing an empty Centcom room and their reporter was giving his report of the meeting.
790 posted on 04/11/2003 4:54:08 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn
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To: MEG33
Big escape of Cole suspects(Al Quida). 10 of them

Heard that.....hope they all go to Iraq....we'll kill them all (prayers that our military is safe from them).

791 posted on 04/11/2003 4:54:42 AM PDT by nicmarlo
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Morning everyone! Have an appointment this morn, but hope to be back by Pentagon briefing. Thank you all for making this the best spot on the internet. (^:
792 posted on 04/11/2003 4:55:26 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl (The time is long overdue to stop taking the media, as well as the U.N., so seriously.-Thomas Sowell)
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To: Carolina
The Turks were threatening to send in Army observers. Colin got on the phone to Ankara.

I heard about the "observers." Not about Colin's call. What, exactly, were the "observers" for/going to do???? I never got the jist of that move.

793 posted on 04/11/2003 4:56:13 AM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
thank you again
your recaps make my mornings so much easier
794 posted on 04/11/2003 5:00:16 AM PDT by SoldiersGirl (Land of the Free..because of the Brave)
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To: All
"And now, we return to our regularly scheduled programming of Pretty Chicken, already in progress."
795 posted on 04/11/2003 5:00:43 AM PDT by BagCamAddict
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Good morning! Looking like the Russians and French really have their dirty little fingers in Iraq. Watching Fox and Friends talk to General Paul Vallely.
796 posted on 04/11/2003 5:00:46 AM PDT by Lauratealeaf (God be with our troops and President Bush)
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To: nicmarlo
I remember hearing yesterday that the US asked the Kurds to withdraw from Kirkuk.....correct?

Correct. Fox News reports that the suspected mobile chemical weapons truck is still being verified and there may be 7 to 15 of them.

797 posted on 04/11/2003 5:00:55 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult ("Read Hillary's hips. I never had sex with that woman.")
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To: null and void
FoxNews talking about the 55 top-most wanted Iraqis. The General implied the GWB administration has a problem with borders. They failed to close the Afg-Pak border near Tora Bora and many Al-Qaeda got through. Now, they similarly failed to close the border with Syria-Iraq where probably the Iraqi heirarchy escaped. [I could add two additional borders that the GWB administration has major problems with: US - Canada and US - Mexico.]
798 posted on 04/11/2003 5:03:18 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: nicmarlo
Perhaps Anan should read todays NYT and see how CNN kept certain aspects of Saddams rule to themselves.
799 posted on 04/11/2003 5:04:41 AM PDT by mware
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To: Lauratealeaf
Did you see monica Crowley on FOX earlier? She was saying that the russians are trying to help scientists and Iraqi officials get out of Iraq. She also said that the Russians built what's under al Tuwaitha.
800 posted on 04/11/2003 5:04:45 AM PDT by mewzilla
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