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U.S. Nuke Find Claim in Iraq Critiqued
AP via Yahoo News ^ | 4/10/03 | William J. Kole

Posted on 04/10/2003 7:29:51 PM PDT by marshmallow

VIENNA, Austria - American troops who suggested they uncovered evidence of an active nuclear weapons program in Iraq (news - web sites) unwittingly may have stumbled across known stocks of low-grade uranium, officials said Thursday. They said the U.S. troops may have broken U.N. seals meant to keep control of the radioactive material.

Leaders of a U.S. Marine Corps combat engineering unit claimed earlier this week to have found an underground network of laboratories, warehouses and bombproof offices beneath the closely monitored Tuwaitha nuclear research center just south of Baghdad.

The Marines said they discovered 14 buildings at the site which emitted unusually high levels of radiation, and that a search of one building revealed "many, many drums" containing highly radioactive material. If documented, such a discovery could bolster Bush administration claims that Saddam Hussein (news - web sites) was trying to develop nuclear weaponry.

Lt. Cmdr. Charles Owens, a spokesman for the U.S. Central Command, said officials there have not heard anything through military channels about a Marine inspection at Tuwaitha.

The Vienna-based International Atomic Energy Agency, which has inspected the Tuwaitha nuclear complex at least two dozen times and maintains a thick dossier on the site, had no immediate comment.

But an expert familiar with U.N. nuclear inspections told The Associated Press that it was implausible to believe that U.S. forces had uncovered anything new at the site. Instead, the official said, the Marines apparently broke U.N. seals designed to ensure the materials aren't diverted for weapons use — or end up in the wrong hands.

"What happened apparently was that they broke IAEA seals, which is very unfortunate because those seals are integral to ensuring that nuclear material doesn't get diverted," the expert said, speaking on condition of anonymity.

The Army Times, meanwhile, reported that troops with the 101st Airborne Division have unearthed 11 shipping containers, filled with sophisticated lab equipment, buried at a chemical plant in Karbala. It said the equipment's value and evidence that some of it may have been smuggled into Iraq raised suspicions that the facility had been used to manufacture chemical weapons.

U.N. arms inspectors visited a facility in the immediate vicinity of the chemical plant Feb. 23, but did not find the buried equipment. Officials at the U.S. Central Command suggested that no conclusions should be drawn.

Several tons of low-grade uranium has been stored at Tuwaitha, Iraq's principle nuclear research center and a site that has been under IAEA safeguards for years, the official said. The Iraqis were allowed to keep the material because it was unfit for weapons use without costly and time-consuming enrichment.

Tuwaitha contains 1.8 tons of low-grade enriched uranium and several tons of natural and depleted uranium.

The uranium was inspected by the U.N. nuclear agency twice a year and was kept under IAEA seal — at least until early this week, when the Marines seized control of the site.

The U.N. nuclear agency's inspectors have visited Tuwaitha about two dozen times, including a dozen checks carried out since December, most recently on Feb. 6. It was among the first sites that IAEA inspectors sought out after the resumption of inspections on Nov. 27 after a nearly four-year break.

On at least one occasion, inspectors with special mountaineering training went underground there to have a look around, according to IAEA documents.

David Kay, a former IAEA chief nuclear inspector, said Thursday that the teams he oversaw after the 1991 Gulf War (news - web sites) never found an underground site at Tuwaitha despite persistent rumors.

"But underground facilities by definition are very hard to detect," he said. "When you inspect a place so often, you get overconfident about what you know. It would have been very easy for the inspectors to explain away any excessive radiation at Tuwaitha. The Iraqis could have hidden something clandestine in plain sight."

American intelligence analysts said before the U.S.-led campaign began that new structures photographed at Tuwaitha might indicate a revival of weapons work. IAEA inspectors checked but found nothing.

The Tuwaitha complex, run by the Iraqi Atomic Energy Commission on a bend in the Tigris River about 18 miles south of Baghdad, was the heart of Saddam's former nuclear program and was involved in the final design of a nuclear bomb before Iraq's nuclear program was destroyed by U.N. teams after the 1991 Gulf War.

The IAEA, charged with the hunt for evidence of a nuclear program in Iraq, told the Security Council just before the war that it had uncovered no firm evidence that Saddam was renewing efforts to add nuclear weapons to his arsenal.

IAEA Director-General Mohamed ElBaradei, clearly wary of any coalition claims, said this week that any alleged discoveries of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq would have to be verified by U.N. inspectors "to generate the required credibility."

ElBaradei said the inspectors should return as soon as possible, subject to Security Council guidance, to resume their search for banned arms


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To: crobnson
So the marines are sitting up in Northern Iraq spinning tales and laughing their heads off.
21 posted on 04/10/2003 8:21:34 PM PDT by crobnson
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To: ContentiousObjector
The UN had already seized the above ground labs. The UN didn't even know about the below ground facilities. They knew only about "persistant rumors."
22 posted on 04/10/2003 8:22:03 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: Sofa King
"But an expert"

A smooth talking duffus with shiny shoes and a cheap suit that is 50 miles or more away from home!
23 posted on 04/10/2003 8:22:27 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: marshmallow
"But underground facilities by definition are very hard to detect," he said. "When you inspect a place so often, you get overconfident about what you know. It would have been very easy for the inspectors to explain away any excessive radiation at Tuwaitha. The Iraqis could have hidden something clandestine in plain sight."

*Sigh*... Hiding a pink elephant in a barbershop.

24 posted on 04/10/2003 8:22:28 PM PDT by smith288 (Visit my gallery http://www.ejsmithweb.com/fr/hollywood/hollywood.php)
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To: piasa
But according to their "experts" there isn't anything there that they don't know about.
25 posted on 04/10/2003 8:23:00 PM PDT by crobnson
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To: marshmallow
"What happened apparently was that they broke IAEA seals, which is very unfortunate because those seals are integral to ensuring that nuclear material doesn't get diverted," the expert said, speaking on condition of anonymity.

Why would he insist on anonymity? His conjecture is bogus, that's why. He is not at all sure of his assertion and he is hedging his bets to avoid humiliation. By hiding behind the curtain of anonymity he gets to take a cheap shot with almost no risk to his reputation if he is wrong.

26 posted on 04/10/2003 8:24:52 PM PDT by Kevin Curry
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To: The Hon. Galahad Threepwood
The news that the Marines discovered Saddam's nuclear weapons--including weapons grade plutonium--under the old nuke site at al-Tuwaitha seems too good to be true.

Nobody, nobody in the original reports said anything about "weapons grade plutonium". That came from a silly-*ss "analysis" on Stratfor (on another thread here somewhere, which I debunked).

I wonder if it keeps being mentioned to make the real report seem silly when the final evaluation finds banned material the UN didn't know about, but no weapons grade plutonium.

(They also didn't discover "Saddam's nuclear weapons", just some unexpected rooms at a nuclear facility. Talk about leaping to conclusions.)

27 posted on 04/10/2003 8:34:08 PM PDT by algol
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To: marshmallow
Y-A-A-A-H-A-A-A-H!

We planted it, didn't we? DIDN'T WE!! Of COURSE, the US military (or, better yet, the CIA) planted this crap in a clay craphole underneath an Iraqui nuke facility so WE could find it and claim the UN missed it! Oh, my suds 'n' body! Oh, my sainted HAT! Oh, God, bless us, mess us, and confess us! Holy smoke, mirrors, and Christmas-tree tinsel!

We planted it, that much is sure. A benevolent, caring man like Saddam would NEVER try to pin such an atrocity on his grateful, oppressed pipples, now, would he?

28 posted on 04/10/2003 8:40:47 PM PDT by ShotgunWillie
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To: algol
I believe that it came from an embedded reporter with the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review.

"After a quick inspection at what military authorities call the 'Yellowcake Facility' a few hundred meters offsite, the Army specialists told the Marines they suspect Al-Tuwaitha harbors weapons-grade plutonium."

29 posted on 04/10/2003 8:41:03 PM PDT by The Hon. Galahad Threepwood
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To: crobnson
They're pretty cocky in assuming that, since they're not there now and have no way of knowing what is there now. They can guess, but they don't know. To be blunt... they weren't exactly able to honestly say they knew about everything there then, either.
30 posted on 04/10/2003 8:46:03 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: The Hon. Galahad Threepwood
Thanks for the link. The original story I saw earlier didn't mention that (it went on more about the difficulty of creating the underground complex in the first place).

Interestingly, the later, similar story by the same reporter downplays the plutonium report, and has dropped the words "weapons-grade" from what the Army specialists told the Marines.
31 posted on 04/10/2003 8:53:00 PM PDT by algol
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To: ShotgunWillie
I smell a 'Rat(s)!!!
32 posted on 04/10/2003 9:06:19 PM PDT by Nucluside (Mark Steyn Rocks!)
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To: marshmallow
I thought Baghdad Bob was out of a job...
33 posted on 04/10/2003 9:07:51 PM PDT by mhking ("It's life, Jim, but not as we know it, not as we know it, not as we know it...")
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