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Europe reacts to fall of Baghdad
BBC News Online ^ | April 10 2003

Posted on 04/10/2003 2:15:25 PM PDT by knighthawk

Scenes of jubilant Iraqis celebrating on the streets of Baghdad have been reported with cautious optimism in the European press. Our BBC correspondents in France, Germany and Russia - countries largely opposed to military action in Iraq - gauge the reaction.

Emma Jane Kirby - Paris

There was a time when you couldn't switch on French television or radio without hearing some outspoken critic condemning the war. Since the fall of Baghdad however, the French Government has been a little more reluctant to come forward.

In a short statement issued by the president, Jacques Chirac said he was satisfied like all democracies with the outcome in Baghdad and he added that he hoped there would be a rapid and effective end to the fighting.

But France's media suggests the government has been politically embarrassed by the warm welcome that American forces received when entering Baghdad.

French radio speaks of the unease and embarrassment of the French Government who may now be wondering if they backed the wrong horse.

The left wing newspaper, Liberation, warns that President Chirac is now threatened with isolation on the international stage. He's become, says the paper, the king of peace without a crown.

The French Government will now be desperate for the UN to take a central role in post-war Iraq, fearing if the US takes the lead it'll deliberately cut France out of reconstruction contracts for failing to back the coalition.

President Chirac may have enjoyed three-quarters of his people's support with his vociferous anti-war ticket, say the papers, but now that he's lost the diplomatic battle, will French citizens still regard him as a hero?

Nikolai Gorshkov - Moscow

There was a sense of incredulity in Moscow at first reports that the Iraqi resistance in central Baghdad suddenly crumbled.

Muscovites were still protesting as Baghdad fell Russian media and Russian politicians for that matter had somehow managed to persuade themselves that this was going to be a long protracted war and a fiercely fought one on the part of the Iraqis, especially in the street battles.

In an ironic twist the largest ever anti-war rally in Moscow was held exactly when international television channels were beaming pictures of the cheering crowds in Baghdad yesterday.

Russian media is playing down the victory and playing up reports of fierce fighting on the right bank of the Tigris river and also making the most of the looting and anarchy in Baghdad and Basra.

A lot of papers say that coalition forces are completely incapable of controlling the situation and imply that unless the United Nations takes up responsibility and installs some kind of civil administration the whole system may collapse.

Katya Adler - Berlin

The majority of Germans opposed military intervention in Iraq so there is cautious optimism expressed in most of the papers about the apparent fall of Saddam Hussein's regime

There is praise for American and British military tactics but journalists still question the reasons for going to war in the first place and newspaper editorials remind their readers that evidence of weapons of weapons of mass destruction still remains to be found in Iraq.

They say the freeing of Iraq is pointless without ensuring wider stability in the Middle East and many add gloomily that the European Union remains divided over the issue and the United Nations to a certain extent discredited.

Just around the corner from here anti-war protesters are still holding around the clock demonstrations and they say they'll remain there until American and British soldiers withdraw altogether from Iraq and there's little faith here in Germany that they are in a hurry to do so.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: baghdad; europe; fall; fallofbaghdad; iraq; warlist; worldopinion
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1 posted on 04/10/2003 2:15:26 PM PDT by knighthawk
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To: MizSterious; rebdov; Nix 2; green lantern; BeOSUser; Brad's Gramma; dreadme; Turk2; Squantos; ...
Europe-list

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2 posted on 04/10/2003 2:15:53 PM PDT by knighthawk
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'Refusenik' press mulls Saddam fall
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3 posted on 04/10/2003 2:17:01 PM PDT by knighthawk
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To: knighthawk; *war_list; W.O.T.; 11th_VA; Libertarianize the GOP; Free the USA; knak; sakka; ...
HEhEHE -- Take that--- Chirac!

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4 posted on 04/10/2003 2:17:22 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Where is Saddam? and where is Tom Daschle?)
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To: knighthawk
French radio speaks of the unease and embarrassment of the French Government who may now be wondering if they backed the wrong horse.

MAY now be wondering? Talk about understatement of the DECADE!

5 posted on 04/10/2003 2:18:20 PM PDT by Happygal
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6 posted on 04/10/2003 2:19:34 PM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: knighthawk
What does the Dutch media say?
7 posted on 04/10/2003 2:20:28 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: knighthawk
"Just around the corner from here anti-war protesters are still holding around the clock demonstrations and they say they'll remain there until American and British soldiers withdraw altogether from Iraq and there's little faith here in Germany that they are in a hurry to do so."

So the protesters stil feel thay have something useless to do, I guess
8 posted on 04/10/2003 2:20:37 PM PDT by rontorr
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To: knighthawk
Just around the corner from here anti-war protesters are still holding around the clock demonstrations and they say they'll remain there until American and British soldiers withdraw altogether from Iraq and there's little faith here in Germany that they are in a hurry to do so.

Sure, and while they're at it, might as well keep it up until German forces get out of Afghanistan. I'm sure what's left of the Taliban doesn't want them there, and these idiots wouldn't want to offend them, now would they??

10 posted on 04/10/2003 2:25:21 PM PDT by Citizen of the Savage Nation
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To: Shermy
The newspaper 'De Telegraaf' is very happy, they backed the US all the way. Daily 'Trouw' also comments on the denail in the Arab world. The leftists 'Volkskrant' also took a look at the Arab standpoint, refering to the American presence as bad.

The NOS, the Dutch public broadcaster, who is leftist run, and anti-American (they recently intoduced a text-bar like CNN has on the bottem. They tested it but didn't know that the bar was live on TV. There were several anti-American text, like 'Bombs on Baghdad, New York and Washington') aired all the footage, but their correspondent in Washington said this: "The US could use a small Iraqi attack with biological weapons" refering too missing WMD-evidence.
11 posted on 04/10/2003 2:30:35 PM PDT by knighthawk
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As Dennis Miller pointed out, the Germans are primarily upset that the attack "wasn't on a grand enough scale."
12 posted on 04/10/2003 2:33:18 PM PDT by Mister Magoo
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To: Shermy; Citizen of the Savage Nation
I am watching an overview ('Der Weg' - the road) of the war on the German ARD. Continual anti-Americanism made by leftists. The worst part is at the end: 'After 23 days, the war still isn't over'. Still isnt' over? Like the coalition was supposed to do it in a weekend or so.
13 posted on 04/10/2003 2:49:49 PM PDT by knighthawk
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French radio speaks of the unease and embarrassment of the French Government who may now be wondering if they backed the wrong horse.

I'm all for metaphor, but this one's just a little too squeaky-clean for my taste. Let's try what it really was "French radio speaks of the unease and embarrassment of the French Government who may now be wondering if they should not have backed a friend and longtime ally over momentary financial interests and a genocidal despot."

Much better.

14 posted on 04/10/2003 2:50:46 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: knighthawk
Looks like Saddam isn't the only one to take a "direct hit" lately, the losers club are having a tough time with all of this, wait, it'll get much worse for them.
15 posted on 04/10/2003 2:52:32 PM PDT by Mister Baredog ((They wanted to kill 50,000 of us on 9/11, we will never forget!))
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To: knighthawk
But France's media suggests the government has been politically embarrassed by the warm welcome that American forces received when entering Baghdad.

Oh, this is rich! But if they're embarrassed now, wait till what we're finding in Iraq becomes public...

16 posted on 04/10/2003 2:52:58 PM PDT by mewzilla
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To: knighthawk
bump
17 posted on 04/10/2003 2:56:35 PM PDT by VOA
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To: knighthawk
One Paris diplomat complained:

"We were hoping to see more collaborators. More Jews getting turned into the authorities for propper gassing. More rudeness to tourists."
18 posted on 04/10/2003 3:00:52 PM PDT by Bluntpoint
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To: knighthawk
The Russians have never come to grips witht he fact that they would have succummed to the Nazi onslaught if it were not for the support of the US (capitalist) industrial system's material support. Absent an active capitalist sponsor, there was no way they should have expected the Iraqi's to endure a prolonged siege. Saddam knew this, which was why he depended upon France. That was his biggest mistake.
19 posted on 04/10/2003 3:00:58 PM PDT by Natural Law
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To: knighthawk
... Jacques Chirac said ... that he hoped there would be a rapid end to the fighting.

Hey, let's cut the guy some slack. After all, he comes from a place that is used to "a rapid end to the fighting."

20 posted on 04/10/2003 3:05:08 PM PDT by catpuppy (Henre Fourde: "You can have any color flag you want so long as it is white.")
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