[Belial]

Nope just know the intent of good people, not hyperbolic banterings of people who get all hot and bothered by a New York Times article.

Dane, I hate to break it to you, but you don't really know Ashcroft, Bush or Cheney. Nor do you know any of the columnists who write for the Times. You have your beliefs about their "hearts" and intentions. And you are catholic in your beliefs. Take that into consideration.

Now weigh the actual text of the Patriot Act. Imagine another political regime in power. Consider the possibilities, when "good people" aren't running the government.

[Freedom2specul8]

Great post! Just who will get the power next time around..hillary?

[Dane]

Dane, I hate to break it to you, but you don't really know Ashcroft, Bush or Cheney. Nor do you know any of the columnists who write for the Times. You have your beliefs about their "hearts" and intentions. And you are catholic in your beliefs. Take that into consideration

Actually I believe that I can know the true beliefs of Bush, Cheney, and Ashcroft, by gauging their previous sayings and actions and I can know the true beliefs of the New York Times from their previous writings and actions.

Sorry but I will believe Bush, Cheney, and Ashcroft over the New York Times 24/7.

It seems that you will believe anybody who is singing your, IMO, paranoid tune, and in this case today it is the New York Times.