[Dane]

With all due respect, I believe you are in a state of clinical denial. You have absolutely REFUSED to acknowledge the possibility of liberals being in charge in the future. I beg of you never to forget 1993-2001

And I think you are in denial of the character of the people who now run the government.

I haven't forgotten 1993-2001, character actually matters now, and people of good charcater are now running the War on Terrorism.

[thepitts]

I haven't forgotten 1993-2001, character actually matters now, and people of good charcater are now running the War on Terrorism.

Dane, with all due respect, isn't that rather short sighted?

[B Knotts]

Are you suggesting that Democrats will never again control any part of government? That seems naive to me. They will someday have control, and the less tools we give them to abuse, the better.

We are supposed to be the ones in favor of limited government, aren't we?

[Abundy]

And I think you are in denial of the character of the people who now run the government.

I haven't forgotten 1993-2001, character actually matters now, and people of good charcater are now running the War on Terrorism.

I'll say it again:

Dane - I've been watching your discussion regarding the Patriot Act and I will respond civilly. You are dead wrong. The entire premise of our government is one of limitation of power because power always corrupts. The document that sets up our govenrment is intended to restrict the lowest common denominator, the worst of the worst, should they get into office somehow. ANY legislation that is premised on lawful use of power by a good and benevolent head of state or congress (regardless of how good or benevolent, present or future) should never be made law.

Period.

Your position on this thread is not only un-supportable in a historical context, i.e. the time-period during which the Constitution was penned and ratified, it is just plain dangerous.

[jmc813]

And I think you are in denial of the character of the people who now run the government.

How so? I like Bush. I disagree with him plenty, but I do believe he is a man of character.

and people of good charcater are now running the War on Terrorism.

As I mentioned before, we are in agreement here. But I am realistic and realize that we WILL have people of bad character in charge sooner than later.

Remember Dane, there is a diference between "trusting" politicians you like, and "trusting" politicians in general.