***Operation Iraqi Freedom - Situation Room - Day 21 - LIVE THREAD***

Multiple ^ | April 9, 2003 | Various

[An.American.Expatriate]

Operation Iraqi Freedom

This thread is dedicated to the brave men and women of the

 Armed Forces of the United States of America.

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"Wish You Were Here"

For all the free people that still protest.
You're welcome. We protect you and you are protected by the best.
Your voice is strong and loud,
but who will fight for you? No one standing in your crowd.
We are your fathers, brothers, and sons,
wearing the boots and carrying guns.
We are the ones that leave all we own,
to make sure your future is carved in stone.
We are the ones who fight and die,
We might not be able to save the world, Well, at least we try.
We walked the paths to where we are at
and we want no choice other than that.
so when you rally your group to complain,
take a look in the back of your brain.
In order for that flag you love to fly
wars must be fought and young men must die.
We came here to fight for the ones we hold dear.
If that's not respected, we would rather stay here.
So please stop yelling, put down your signs,
and pray for those behind enemy lines.
When the conflict is over and all is well,
be thankful that we chose to go through hell.

Corporal Joshua Miles and all the boys from 3rd Battalion 2nd Marines,
Kuwait 3/9/2003

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Links to the past threads

Day 1	Day 8	Day 15
Day 2	Day 9	Day 16
Day 3	Day 10	Day 17
Day 4	Day 11	Day 18
Day 5	Day 12	Day 19
Day 6	Day 13	Day 20
Day 7	Day 14

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Mhking's live cam links 

Live Video/Audio Feeds: (If you can't reach a feed by clicking on it, make sure to try copying the address, and pasting it in the appropriate browser -- WMV=Windows Media Player; Real=Real Player/RealOne; MP3=WinAmp/Audion/other streaming MP3 player; QT=QuickTime) FR: Final Update: Streaming Video/Audio Links (Includes info & HTML/Javascript code on how to create your own multi-feeds page)
"Mother Of All War Websites" (Additional links to live audio/video feeds)
VirtualTuner.com - Showdown in Iraq
WWI-TV Portal (WorldWide Internet-TV Portal Site)
Abu Dhabi TV (Real - Arabic)
BBC/Baghdad Cam(Real)
BBC News 24 (Real - 56)
BBC News 24 (Real - BB)
CablePulse 24 - Toronto (WMV)
CBS/Baghdad Cam (Real)
CBC RadioOne - Toronto (QT)
CN8 Philadelphia (Real)
CNN+ (Spain) (WMV)
CNN Baghdad Cam (WMV)
CNN Radio (WMV)
CNN via KGW/Portland (Real - mostly down)
DW-TV Berlin (Real - German/English)
IraqiTV (Real)
IraqiTV (WMV - #1)
IraqiTV (WMV - #2)
IraqiTV (WMV - #3)
ITN News Channel - London (Real - Audio Only)
MSNBC/NBC (WMV/Feeds page)
MSNBC (WMV - Audio Only - Headlines & Breaking News)
MSNBC Bagdad Cam (WMV)
N-TV Berlin (Real - In German Where Available)
NTV Baghdad Cam (Real)
NWCN, Seattle/Portland (Real)
Reuters Feedroom (Real - Raw Video Feeds)
Sky News (56K - WMV/Copy/Paste)
Sky News (BB - WMV/Copy-Paste)
SNN6 Sarasota, FL (Real)
WSVN-TV/DT Miami (WMV - Fox Affiliate)

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Cboldt's Goody Bag

Baghdad City Maps

http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/middle_east_and_asia/baghdad_nima_2003.jpg <-- 1.6 Mb
http://www.stripes.com/02/dec02/baghdad.pdf <-- 440 Kb

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Good Morning.

This is the Daily Thread of Operation Iraqi Freedom - Situation Room - LIVE THREAD.

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To all who helped this get started and keep it running, thank you!

Special thanks to Null and Void for keeping these threads running on the weekends, Mo1 for the screamer, the AdminMods for their tolerance, mhking for the video links, Ragtime Cowgirl for her Exclusive Live Transcription Service™, Fledermaus for his 15 minutes of fame, and, of course, Belly Girl...

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[Consort]

It's the backside of a photo showing backsides.

[AFPhys]

...The writer, of that article, is NOT an ARAB, and is just grousing.

Agreed, and agreed... nevertheless his observations are accurate, to his chagrin (again, with the proviso of adjusting for his antiBush/antiAmerican bias)

[Tree of Liberty]

Possibly. You hear Ollie's report earlier about Saddam ordering soldiers in the field to hold 6yr old girls in their arms while in combat?

[GOPyouth]

This is almost word for word what Shep said earlier tonight. I'll make comments to your post after this.

"The founding fathers felt we needed freedom of the press so that regular citizens could check up on the government. Those people who are over there have Iraqi minders with them. How different are these minders from the military? These reporters went over there and are scared for their lives, and who wouldn't be? They are there for you, just like those soldiers, and I pray that they come home safe."

Now to your statements: The problem with Shep's argument is that in Iraq, the U.S. Constitution has no bearing

Shep was discussing the idea of press in general, and especially in the eyes of some people who felt the need to email him saying saying that journalist should have died for going to Iraq to report a war that we can watch on t.v. (then discuss on this political forum.)

These people were duly warned. They made the choice to go and now they must accept responsibility for their decision.

These reporters know what they are getting into. I don't agree with them bitching about the tank firing into the building. BUT, that still doesn't take away the fact that the context in which Shep was talking was in regards to emails from people saying that they deserved to die.

The United States government and military wants these reporters there. They (gov.)are using their footage as much as we are. By having embedded reporters with the troops going into Baghdad, we can use reporters in the building interviewing Baghdad Bob. His statements completely discredit the Iraqi government. This is not a bad thing that this fool is talking.

[fellowpatriot]

He really sticks out in that group by wearing a tan helmet and blue shirt and vest.

I'm just waiting for someone in the media to notice this and accuse the military of using him for a decoy. LOL

[AFPhys]

the little three are going to lick each other's wounds... koffeekake has decided not to join them.

[fellowpatriot]

I'm not worried about Bush backing down. He went to bat for Tony with the UN and now Tony owes him the same favor.

[this_ol_patriot]

It's the back side of the picture. You did see the picture?

[Tree of Liberty]

That's right

[Diddle E. Squat]

Dhue and Hunt are teasing him about it now.

Someone should send an e-mail to Fox suggesting one of the anchors ask Rick to peer from behind a plant and say "Veeeewwy Intervesting"

[O Neill]

...the Palestine Hotel. LOL.

You can get any thing you want,
at the Palestine Restaurant...

exceptin' Palestine...

[Tree of Liberty]

ROFL! Marines asking for Laurie's phone number

[ringgold]

The marine is flirting with Laurie, too! Can't blame him a bit.

[thedugal]

oh, now that's a classic! ROFLMAO

[Consort]

Beverly Hills Cop.