***Operation Iraqi Freedom - Situation Room - Day 21 - LIVE THREAD***

Multiple ^ | April 9, 2003 | Various

[An.American.Expatriate]

Operation Iraqi Freedom

This thread is dedicated to the brave men and women of the

 Armed Forces of the United States of America.

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"Wish You Were Here"

For all the free people that still protest.
You're welcome. We protect you and you are protected by the best.
Your voice is strong and loud,
but who will fight for you? No one standing in your crowd.
We are your fathers, brothers, and sons,
wearing the boots and carrying guns.
We are the ones that leave all we own,
to make sure your future is carved in stone.
We are the ones who fight and die,
We might not be able to save the world, Well, at least we try.
We walked the paths to where we are at
and we want no choice other than that.
so when you rally your group to complain,
take a look in the back of your brain.
In order for that flag you love to fly
wars must be fought and young men must die.
We came here to fight for the ones we hold dear.
If that's not respected, we would rather stay here.
So please stop yelling, put down your signs,
and pray for those behind enemy lines.
When the conflict is over and all is well,
be thankful that we chose to go through hell.

Corporal Joshua Miles and all the boys from 3rd Battalion 2nd Marines,
Kuwait 3/9/2003

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Links to the past threads

Day 1	Day 8	Day 15
Day 2	Day 9	Day 16
Day 3	Day 10	Day 17
Day 4	Day 11	Day 18
Day 5	Day 12	Day 19
Day 6	Day 13	Day 20
Day 7	Day 14

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Mhking's live cam links 

Live Video/Audio Feeds: (If you can't reach a feed by clicking on it, make sure to try copying the address, and pasting it in the appropriate browser -- WMV=Windows Media Player; Real=Real Player/RealOne; MP3=WinAmp/Audion/other streaming MP3 player; QT=QuickTime) FR: Final Update: Streaming Video/Audio Links (Includes info & HTML/Javascript code on how to create your own multi-feeds page)
"Mother Of All War Websites" (Additional links to live audio/video feeds)
VirtualTuner.com - Showdown in Iraq
WWI-TV Portal (WorldWide Internet-TV Portal Site)
Abu Dhabi TV (Real - Arabic)
BBC/Baghdad Cam(Real)
BBC News 24 (Real - 56)
BBC News 24 (Real - BB)
CablePulse 24 - Toronto (WMV)
CBS/Baghdad Cam (Real)
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CNN Baghdad Cam (WMV)
CNN Radio (WMV)
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IraqiTV (Real)
IraqiTV (WMV - #1)
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IraqiTV (WMV - #3)
ITN News Channel - London (Real - Audio Only)
MSNBC/NBC (WMV/Feeds page)
MSNBC (WMV - Audio Only - Headlines & Breaking News)
MSNBC Bagdad Cam (WMV)
N-TV Berlin (Real - In German Where Available)
NTV Baghdad Cam (Real)
NWCN, Seattle/Portland (Real)
Reuters Feedroom (Real - Raw Video Feeds)
Sky News (56K - WMV/Copy/Paste)
Sky News (BB - WMV/Copy-Paste)
SNN6 Sarasota, FL (Real)
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Cboldt's Goody Bag

Baghdad City Maps

http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/middle_east_and_asia/baghdad_nima_2003.jpg <-- 1.6 Mb
http://www.stripes.com/02/dec02/baghdad.pdf <-- 440 Kb

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[Howlin]

I'm very upset about this; more pictures of THEM tonight than anything else.

[spectr17]

CNN,

USAF offloading heavy armor, (M1 Abrams tanks) in north Iraq with 173rd Airborne.

They showed NV video of ramp down with tank coming off. Aircraft appeared to be a C-17.

[paul544]

Did the Dixie Shix win anything last night?

[JLS]

Narcissism on the part of the press is hardly surprising is it? If they spent some of the time they spend on press analysis on actual news, think how well informed we might be?

[Consort]

The picture illustrates selective compassion.

[Prince Charles]

Yeah, the two Skyboys (in Doha and Baghdad), among others, are a wee bit too fluffed up with themselves.

[Howlin]

I'd be interested in hearing a discussion about this incident between a "hotel jockey" reporter and an embedded reporter, wouldn't you?

[Howlin]

I bet the embedded reporters would have fired on that building.

[Mrs.Liberty]

selective compassion and selected outrage...

[O Neill]

I have no problem with those Islamakazis jumping into the meat grinder...

The sooner they're all embedded with the 70 virgins, the better off we'll all be...including the Intelliraqis.

[Prince Charles]

I'd like to read one straight news story on the front page of a major daily paper. It can't be done.

[nicollo]

re. dead reporters.

Forgive my subtlety. My "friendly fire" analogy was to illustrate the absurb and exaggerated reports over loss of their own -- as opposed to losses of our fighters.

They "report" friendly fire incidents, yet burn our boys in effigy over killed journalists. If there was any consistency in their reports, they would have called or related this "friendly fire," or "collateral damage," i.e., firing upon the wrong target. If we took out a sniper, then it was a legitmate attack. All I hear from the media is that there "were no" snipers in the hotel or near the Al-J building. But they go no further: they attribute malign intentions, as opposed to other "friendly fire" incidents in which the loss of life is reported as regrettable.

Consistency would require that, without acceptance of the presence of snipers among them, they attribute these incidents to accidental or unintended causes. All I see is damnation. They suck.

[Slip18]

Here is a photo of my other nephew.:

[Fracas]

Shep was responding to those Emails that DID say 'screw those journalists'....not to the Emailers who complain about the press in general.

Another story will come along to replace this one. Based on the ratings, not too many people are hanging on Christine Amanpour's every word.

[GOPyouth]

I wanted to clarify something real quick regarding all of this. I do not blame the military for firing back. If their sensors picked up a sniper flash from that area, by all means, fire.

[nicollo]

The press is actually calling it a violation of the Geneva Convention, and is demanding an investigation. So they're claiming we aimed for them.

It's worse than I thought. Oh well, to be expected. History will not remember this. The press will NOT win this war.

[Mrs.Liberty]

grrr...selected=selective..

make that selective compassion and selective outrage.

[Dolphy]

The details may be wrong, but I still find it an interesting theory. There is a reason Putin said we were going to be sorry for this war, especially when he knew we could blow up Iraq many times over. Chaos was the battle plan, not conventional warfare. There is a long Cold War history in the region too.

[spectr17]

CNN, Rym Brahimi, citing her sources in Baghdad

Errie quiet over Baghdad this morning. No militia out to speak of. People very afraid, not sure what's up with Sodomy.