The madness of saving Jessica (gag)

Evening Standard (U.K.) ^ | 04/08/03 | Brian Sewell

[doodad]

You are in fact an ass.

[glennaro]

There is much wisdom in your analysis, elfman2. Thank you.

[sauropod]

Simply, she fought the Iraqis until she ran out of ammunition and was overpowered.

What part of that do you not understand?

[demosthenes the elder]

by not reading further, you missed the "best" parts of this imperial jackass' rant.

[Nonstatist]

The point is that man would instinctively go save a woman before a man.

The whole crux of your diatribe is that if she was a man, nobody would be going to the same lengths to rescue her. You have no proof of that, there is no anecdotal evidence of that, there is absolutlely nothing out there that substantiates this kind of slander.

It is false conjecture, a lie, actually. BS; the kind elitist proffessors spout with uncommon regularity. Pathetic.

[Catspaw]

And they did it because they had an Iraqi civilian who told them where an American was being held. They probably had only the vaguest clue as to her identity before they actually found her inside the hospital. But, considering they were doing something historic, they very probably would have done the same even if they were rescuing Al Sharpton.

The Iraqi civilian walked across enemy lines to find our armed forces, then went back twice more to gather intel about the layout of the hospital, how many guards (fedayeen) were around the prisoner and information. He put his life and the life of his family on the line to help rescue Pfc. Lynch.

But it wouldn't have mattered which POW it was--and I'm sure they hoped they'd find other live POWs nearby when they went in. Instead, they found the bodies of nine of our dead and used their bare hands to dig their bodies out of shallow graves. In the past day, they've found US camo uniforms in the Rashid Prison in Baghdad. The uniforms were bloodied and torn, and are suspected to be from the POWs from Pfc. Lynch's unit. They are aggressively and actively looking for the other captives. We know that, unlike the POWs we have, the Iraqis have not allowed the Red Cross/Red Crescent to visit them, and we also know that they do not comply with the Geneva Convention. Their safety and welfare--if not their lives--are of top priority to us.

[demosthenes the elder]

?
red flapjacks have no attitude that I have ever noticed.

[stands2reason]

They were given an exact address, including the room where the prisoner was being held. They were told exactly what level of resistance to expect. It was a gift wrapped present to the guys who train for this sort of thing. There is no way they wouldn't have gone in, no matter the sex, orientation, color, or level of experience of the prisoner.

I honestly can't see them having the same info about a guy (instead of a girl) and saying, "Naah, let's leave him there..." The idea is just inconceivable in my mind.

[sauropod]

Does she come with the sign?

[fightinJAG]

Okay, now you've done it.

Where is this guy's email?

[johnb838]

It has occurred to none of them that if God had anything to do with it, he would have stayed the hands of Bush and Blair and sent no one into battle."

Bullcrap.

He hath loosed the fateful lightning of His terrible swift sword.

How you like me now, baby?

[countrydummy]

Why don't you just shut up! This is not a debate on if she is or if she is not a hero, this is an asinine article insulting all we hold dear.......and so unjust to Jessica and her family! He is a PUKE and if you think the article is ok, then you are a PUKE!

[johnb838]

LAtest thing i read was they slowed down to help some disabled vehicles. No wrong turn at all, or at least the wrong turn was the ambush.

[CaptainJustice]

He's just trolling... Some people have to be contrary all the time. I think its a power thing.

[steplock]

"Search-and-rescue operations are not conducted on the basis of someone's race or sexual orientation"

In reality, search & rescue is done BY RANK first, Occupational Specialty second, and I would venture to guess, by sex.

Now to get slammed for stating the obvious.

I was involved in "search & rescue" ops and I can state we went after Officers, Pilots, and Nurses (female). NEVER were we tasked to go after some poor enlisted grunt.

We did stay around and risk our lives to RECOVER the bodies of our brothers-in-arms - we NEVER left one behind - we even brought back small pieces, if that's all there was.

As much as no one on here likes that reporter, he was on target when he said the rescue effort was a publicity ploy - which I am in favor of. There is NOTHING wrong with that for a reason.

Do you know that most MOH the past 50-60 years were awarded according to publicity needs? I'm NOT saying the Soldiers/Sailors/Marines didn't earn them, just that the medal was actually awarded when politics dictated one was needed (By Service, Rank, Home Town, etc...) It's a fact of life in the service.

There probably has been many search and rescue operations in IRAQ the past several weeks - you won't hear of them. They are simply carried out. If the politics requires the publicity, there will be another "dramatic" rendition of what what usually occurs when "Uncommon Valor is a Common Virtue".

Semper Fidelis

[Zavien Doombringer]

I only agreed with the article for the chivalrous notations. Is Chivalry truley dead? I proudly served and I will do it again! I would do it knowing that I could be in harms way and my life could be required. I freely would give it knowing that my wife and children would remain free and the future generations wouldn't forget. Talk about viscious, who's truely conservative in here?

[johnb838]

Screw you, idiot. If we knew where they were we'd be on them like white on white.

[demosthenes the elder]

a little Horace would do this puke a world of good. start him off with "Regulus" - in Latin, of course.