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NewsMax ^ | 4/7/03 | NewsMax

Posted on 04/07/2003 3:00:43 PM PDT by Dergie

5. Clinton Redux: Democrats Abroad Denounce U.S.

Remember how Bill Clinton demonstrated against America while a student at Oxford University? It's déjà vu all over again, with leftist Democrats railing against the U.S. with a bunch of unrepentant communists in Moscow.

The Moscow Times this past week noted that 6,000 people, mostly communists but including a handful of Americans, attended a demonstration that was "a mass of red flags and 'Yankee Go Home' badge-wearing demonstrators."

The newspaper reported that a group called Democrats Abroad organized the event. On its Web site, the outfit calls itself "The official Democratic Party organization for some six million American citizens who live outside the United States." Its stated mission: "We work to support the aims and principles of the Democratic Party. We are recognized as a 'state' committee by the Democratic National Committee and are represented on the DNC by eight members."

GOPUSA News called the DNC for comment, but as you can imagine, the Democrat establishment is refusing to comment.

The Times quoted one Tanya Abrams, a student on a U.S. taxpayer-funded fellowship to Moscow State Institute of International Relations, as claiming President Bush is "ignoring the will of the people. He can't convince anyone in the world except for Britain. I'm embarrassed to be an American."

We agree with you on one thing, toots: We're also embarrassed that you're an American

TOPICS: News/Current Events

1 posted on 04/07/2003 3:00:43 PM PDT by Dergie
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To: Dergie
Proves everything we all believe. Demo-commies, socialist, looking to overthrow America as we know it and form the Soviet Socialist Republic of Amerika. Coming to a gulag near you soon. This is what we are up against folks. This info needs to be sent to everyone you know.
2 posted on 04/07/2003 3:03:04 PM PDT by RetiredArmy
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To: Dergie
Democrats and Communism. Two very similar terms one is for the people the other is what those people believe in.
3 posted on 04/07/2003 3:03:51 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Caring Rational Alert Professional)
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To: Dergie

4 posted on 04/07/2003 3:06:57 PM PDT by weegee (McCarthy was right, fight the Red Menace.)
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To: Dergie
The overwhelming and vast majority of RATS wholly endorse every one of the 10 planks of the Communist (originally labeled Socialist) Manifesto. No surprise here. McCarthy was right...
5 posted on 04/07/2003 3:06:57 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution (Yes, let us allow the economies of gerdung, frunk, mexiztlan, chirushcom and canadastan to wither...)
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To: Dergie
There are plenty of Marxists and sympathizers here in this country. The communist backed ANSWER sponsors or is linked closely to most of the "anti-war" rallies. They use peace and even race as a cover for their attempts to overthrow our government and our culture.
6 posted on 04/07/2003 3:14:51 PM PDT by FirstTomato ("In the end,We will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends" M L King)
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To: FirstTomato

Peace movement leader and human rights activist, former U.S. Attorney General Ramsey Clark, defended Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein on Friday, saying that reports of his brutality were part of a U.S.-backed disinformation campaign.

Asked about an eyewitness account of the torture death of an Iraqi dissident who was put in a glass cage and eaten alive by dogs while Saddam and other top leaders watched, Clark told WLIE-NY radio's Mike Siegel, "That's the most absurd story I've heard in a long time."

"Propaganda can be pretty vicious," the antiwar activist warned before trashing the torture account a second time, saying, "If you believe that, you're a hopeless case."

Clark did, however, acknowledge the truthfulness of reports that Saddam Hussein's son-in-law was murdered after he defected in the 1990's and was then persuaded to return, but he declined the pin the blame on the Iraqi leader.

Instead the human rights activist blamed the man's execution on "people working for the [Iraqi] government, apparently."

Asked if Saddam controlled the government at the time, Clark responded, "The government is a lot of people."

The antiwar leader said that other accounts from Iraqi defectors who have described Saddam's brutality, as well as reports of terrorist training operations inside Iraq, were probably false.

"I've worked with problems of defection and informers for years and years and they're not generally reliable," Clark told WLIE. "You have to be careful about who you're talking to. I also recognize propaganda. And I hear more garbage and propaganda coming out about how evil the Iraqi people are."

He then chastised radio host Siegel for spreading accounts of Saddam's brutality, complaining, "I think you're just fantasizing with propaganda. It shows your own hatred and narrow-mindedness."

Minutes later, the former U.S. attorney general condemned U.S.-backed economic sanctions against Iraq during the 1990s, calling them, "absolute genocide."

7 posted on 04/07/2003 3:19:22 PM PDT by Dergie
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To: Dergie
Here is ANSWER's web site. Note Ramsey Clark as spokesman:
8 posted on 04/07/2003 3:21:43 PM PDT by Dergie
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To: Dergie
Oh, and guess who shows up with Ramsey at an anti-war protest?

Also joining the Pacifica coverage will be Rep. Charles Rangel, who recently called for the re-instatement of the military draft.

Confirmed speakers for the rally include former Attorney General Ramsey Clark, former Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney, Damu Smith (Black Voices for Peace), actors Jessica Lange and Mike Farrell, and Ron Kovic (author, BORN ON THE FOURTH OF JULY).

You remember Mr. Rangel, don't you? The "Soldiers are baby killers" radical on Hannity and Colmes?

9 posted on 04/07/2003 3:25:11 PM PDT by Dergie
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To: Dergie
What current Democratic leaders are attending these rallies chaired by Ramsey?

Organizers said speakers will include Rep. John Conyers Jr. (D-Mich.) and Jesse L. Jackson as well as religious and labor leaders. Musical performers will include country singer Willie Nelson and hip-hop artist Mos Def.
10 posted on 04/07/2003 3:28:14 PM PDT by Dergie
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To: Dergie
As the Democratic party is today ... Hand and glove
11 posted on 04/07/2003 3:29:25 PM PDT by clamper1797 (Credo Quia Absurdum)
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To: Dergie
I've occasionally posted the phrase "The Communist Party USA (currently DBA* The Democrat Party)."

*DBA = A business term meaning "doing business as"

12 posted on 04/07/2003 3:29:26 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty" not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: Dergie
Thanks for your post....adding to my "project" to post on FR later....
13 posted on 04/07/2003 3:30:09 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo
I've been doing research on this for months. When I first started seeing this stuff come across the news media, it alarmed me and piqued my interest. What I found is one of the biggest motivating factors for my switching parties from that of Independent to Republican.

I heard a man one day say that he's a Republican because they're the only ones that can stop the Democrats. I'm a believer, and I'm also now a Republican.

This is an alarming trend that needs to be stopped in its tracks. These people have no place in our society.

I have a ton of other research on this subject, but I usually only post it in tidbits because I don't want to inundate people with too much information. So if you want more, I've got more.

Too much is beginning to add up.
14 posted on 04/07/2003 3:39:45 PM PDT by Dergie
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To: Dergie
Too much is beginning to add up.

You can say that again!!! Freepmail will be coming your way....

15 posted on 04/07/2003 3:44:39 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: ApesForEvolution
The overwhelming and vast majority of RATS wholly endorse every one of the 10 planks of the Communist

Heres an Update !


1. U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.

2. U.S. willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.

3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.

4. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.

5. Extension of long-term loans to Russia and Soviet satellites.

6. Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination.

7. Grant recognition of Red China. Admission of Red China to the U.N.

8. Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of Khrushchev's promise in 1955 to settle the German question by free elections under supervision of the U.N.

9. Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the United States has agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in progress.

10. Allow all Soviet satellites individual representation in the U.N.

11. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces. (Some Communist leaders believe the world can be taken over as easily by the U.N. as by Moscow. Sometimes these two centers compete with each other as they are now doing in the Congo.)

12. Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party.

13. Do away with all loyalty oaths.

14. Continue giving Russia access to the U.S. Patent Office.

15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.

16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.

17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.

18. Gain control of all student newspapers.

19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.

20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policymaking positions.

21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.

22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to "eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms."

23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. "Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art."

24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.

25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.

26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."

27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a "religious crutch."

28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state."

29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.

30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man."

31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of the "big picture." Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.

32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture--education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.

33. Eliminate all laws or procedures which interfere with the operation of the Communist apparatus.

34. Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities.

35. Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI.

36. Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.

37. Infiltrate and gain control of big business.

38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand [or treat].

39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.

40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.

41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.

42. Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special-interest groups should rise up and use ["]united force["] to solve economic, political or social problems.

43. Overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are ready for self-government.

44. Internationalize the Panama Canal.

45. Repeal the Connally reservation so the United States cannot prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction [over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction] over nations and individuals alike.


Note by Webmaster: The Congressional Record back this far has not be digitized and posted on the Internet.

It will probably be available at your nearest library that is a federal repository. Call them and ask them.

Your college library is probably a repository. This is an excellent source of government records.

Another source are your Congress Critters. They should be more than happy to help you in this matter.

You will find the Ten Planks of the Communist Manifesto interesting at this point.

Click here to see them listed with brain-challenging comments.

16 posted on 04/07/2003 4:04:11 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK ("He is a moss-gatherer, and I have been a stone doomed to rolling." Gandalf)
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Might as well put it front and center:

Ten Planks of the Communist Manifesto


This link may be discontinued. Use your discretion. The thoughts are mind-awakening.

In the early '60's during the days of the "former" Soviet Union, Russian Premier Nikita Kruschev pounded his shoe on the podium of the United Nations and shouted to the West, "We will bury you!" Fearing an invasion from the Reds, America proceeded to build the most awesome military machine in history. Unfortunately, we forgot to guard our political homefront from being taken over by socialist - communist - liberal activists who would gain office and destroy American law by process of gradually installing the Communist agenda within our legal system and seperate branches of government. The Communist program from the start has been one which sees their revolution of 1917 succesful only upon total domination of the world. (See Brain Washing, A Synthesis of the Russian Textbook on Psychopolitics)

Americans, being the most naive people among the nations, now believe that Communism is dead because the Berlin Wall and the Iron Curtain have been removed. The ironic truth is that Communism has just switched names to become more "politically correct". Today it is called international democracy. The reason that the Berlin Wall came crashing down is not because Communism is dead but because they have achieved the planned agenda to communize the West, including America. Washington D.C. has indeed become part of the New World Order of atheist governments. With the last vestiges of Christian law having been removed from "American government" over the last twenty years, there is no longer a threat of resistance against world Communism. In reality, "American government" became part of the Iron Curtain, thus there was no more need for the likes of a Berlin Wall.

Once again, in their foolishness, the American public has believed the lies of their "leaders" who applaud "the fall of Communism", while they have sold out the country to anti-Christian, anti-American statutes and regulations on the federal, state, and local levels. Posted below is a comparison of the original ten planks of the Communist Manifesto written by Karl Marx in 1848, along with the American adopted counterpart of each of the planks, The American people have truly been "buried in Communism" by their own politicians of both the Republican and Democratic parties. One other thing to remember, Karl Marx was stating in the Communist Manifesto that these planks will test whether a country has become commmunist or not. If they are all in effect and in force the country IS communist. Communism, but by any other name...??

1. Abolition of private property and the application of all rent to public purpose.

The 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution (1868), and various zoning, school & property taxes. Also the Bureau of Land Management.

2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.

Misapplication of the 16th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, 1913, The Social Security Act of 1936.; Joint House Resolution 192 of 1933; and various State "income" taxes. We call it "paying your fair share".

3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.

We call it Federal & State estate Tax (1916); or reformed Probate Laws, and limited inheritance via arbitrary inheritance tax statutes.

4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.

We call in government seizures, tax liens, Public "law" 99-570 (1986);

Executive order 11490, sections 1205, 2002 which gives private land to the Department of Urban Development; the imprisonment of "terrorists" and those who speak out or write against the "government" (1997 Crime/Terrorist Bill); or the IRS confiscation of property without due process.

5. Centralization of credit in the hands of the State, by means of a national bank with state capital and an exclusive monopoly.

We call it the Federal Reserve which is a credit/debt system nationally organized by the Federal Reserve act of 1913. All local banks are members of the Fed system, and are regulated by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC).

6. Centralization of the means of communication and transportation in the hands of the State.

We call it the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) and Department of Transportation (DOT) mandated through the ICC act of 1887, the Commissions Act of 1934, The Interstate Commerce Commission established in 1938, The Federal Aviation Administration, Federal Communications Commission, and Executive orders 11490, 10999, as well as State mandated driver's licenses and Department of Transportation regulations.

7. Extention of factories and instruments of production owned by the State, the bringing into cultivation of waste lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.

We call it corporate capacity, The Desert Entry Act and The Department of Agriculture. As well as the Department of Commerce and Labor, Department of Interior, the Evironmental Protection Agency, Bureau of Land Management, Bureau of Reclamation, Bureau of Mines, National Park Service, and the IRS control of business through corporate regulations.

8. Equal liablity of all to labor. Establishment of Industrial armies, especially for agriculture.

We call it the Social Security Administration and The Department of Labor. The National debt and inflation caused by the communal bank has caused the need for a two "income" family. Woman in the workplace since the 1920's, the 19th amendment of the U.S. Constitution, the Civil Rights Act of 1964, assorted Socialist Unions, affirmative action, the Fedral Public Works Program and of course Executive order 11000.

9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country by a more equable distribution of the population over the country.

We call it the Planning Reorganization act of 1949 , zoning (Title 17 1910-1990) and Super Corporate Farms, as well as Executive orders 11647, 11731 (ten regions) and Public "law" 89-136.

10. Free education for all children in government schools. Abolition of children's factory labor in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, etc. etc.

People are being taxed to support what we call 'public' schools, which train the young to work for the communal debt system. We also call it the Department of Education, the NEA and Outcome Based "Education" .

So I ask you...does changing the words, change the end result? By using different words is it all of a sudden OK????? We are so "smart," aren't we??
17 posted on 04/07/2003 5:07:06 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution (Yes, let us allow the economies of gerdung, frunk, mexiztlan, chirushcom and canadastan to wither...)
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To: ApesForEvolution
Actually, your remarks are very true.

Look at it this way: Look at who is funding the Liberal candidates more closely this election, especially the Greens. You will be shocked at who is taking a keen interest in our elections.
18 posted on 04/08/2003 7:02:48 AM PDT by Dergie
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To: FreedomCalls; Dergie; Jim Robinson
The Democrat Party is certifiably as the defacto Communist Party USA, while the Green Party, Communist Party and the rest of the cabal which pretends to be further left, in actuality, are putting words to what Democrats put into legislation.

Make no mistake; when you boil it all down, half the voting population is communist (of varying stripes and concerns) - the other half is patriot (of differing degrees and sentiments).

The morally bankrupt anchoring the communists and FR-type orgs anchoring the patriots.

Communist versus Patriot. Winning the war against domestic communists (desperately trying to throw society into martial law through anarchical tactics) is as critically vital as any America has fought, and I imagine many of us that hang on FR will have to die fighting it before the country lurches back on track again.
19 posted on 04/08/2003 11:19:43 AM PDT by ApesForEvolution (Yes, let us allow the economies of gerdung, frunk, mexiztlan, chirushcom and canadastan to wither...)
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