Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Supreme Court Upholds Ban on Cross Burning, Rejects Free Speech Claim
AP ^ | 4-7-2003

Posted on 04/07/2003 11:57:37 AM PDT by Cagey

WASHINGTON (AP) - The Supreme Court upheld a state ban on cross burning, ruling Monday the history of racial intimidation attached to it outweighs the free speech protection of Ku Klux Klansmen or others who might use it.

A burning cross is a particularly powerful instrument of terror, and government should have the power to stamp out or punish its use as a weapon of intimidation, Justice Sandra Day O'Connor wrote.

The protections afforded by the First Amendment "are not absolute," she wrote.

The court voted 6-3 to uphold the ban, but split 5-4 on the narrower question of whether the law violates the constitutional guarantee of free speech. Justice Clarence Thomas agreed with the broad premise that states may bar cross burning, but did not agree with the court's holding that the law was constitutional on free speech grounds.

Thomas, the court's only black member, said the court didn't even have to consider the First Amendment implications because a state has a right to bar conduct it considers "particularly vicious."

"Just as one cannot burn down someone's house to make a political point and then seek refuge in the First Amendment, those who hate cannot terrorize and intimidate to make their point," he wrote.

At issue was a 50-year-old Virginia law that makes it a crime to burn a cross as an act of intimidation. A lower court ruled the law muzzled free speech.

"While a burning cross does not inevitably convey a message of intimidation, often the cross burning intends that the recipients of the message fear for their lives," O'Connor wrote. "And when a cross burning is used to intimidate, few if any messages are more powerful."

O'Connor was joined by Chief Justice William H. Rehnquist and Justices John Paul Stevens, Antonin Scalia and Stephen Breyer.

Justices Anthony M. Kennedy, David Souter and Ruth Bader Ginsburg dissented on free-speech grounds.

"The symbolic act of burning a cross, without more, is consistent with both intent to intimidate and intent to make an ideological statement free of any aim to threaten," Souter noted.

The Virginia law does not draw enough of a distinction, especially since it explicitly calls cross-burning "prima facia evidence" of an intent to intimidate, Souter wrote for the three.

That provision "has a very obvious significance as a mechanism for bringing within the state's prohibition some expression that is doubtfully threatening though certainly distasteful."

"This is a victory for race relations in America," said Kent Scheidegger, legal director for the Criminal Justice Legal Foundation.

The Supreme Court historically has been protective of First Amendment rights of unsavory or unpopular groups and causes, including the Klan, flag-burners, pornographers and strippers.

More than a decade ago, the court struck down a local law in St. Paul, Minn., that prohibited placing symbols including a burning cross or a swastika on someone else's property out of racial, religious or other bias.

The cross-burning case in Virginia evoked a mostly bygone era in the South, when "nightriders" set crosses ablaze as a symbol of intimidation to blacks and civil rights sympathizers. Virginia and other states tried to outlaw the practice, but the laws have run into trouble on free-speech grounds.

"I respect the First Amendment protection of speech, but burning a cross is never about free speech," Virginia Gov. Mark R. Warner said after the court issued its ruling. "Historically in Virginia, these provocative acts are clearly intended to menace and intimidate African-Americans," he said.

During oral arguments in the case in December, Thomas recalled what he called a centurylong "reign of terror" by the Klan and other white supremacy groups, and called the flaming cross "unlike any symbol in our society."

"The cross was a symbol of that reign of terror," Thomas said in apparent exasperation that a government lawyer was providing only tepid, legalistic justification for the Virginia law.

"My fear is ... that you're actually underestimating the symbolism of, and the effect of, the cross, the burning cross," Thomas said.

The moment was electric, in part because Thomas almost never speaks during the court's oral arguments, and because of his race.

The case began five years ago, with two separate prosecutions.

In one case, two white men in Virginia Beach, Va., ended a night of partying by trying to burn a 4-foot cross in the yard of a black neighbor, James Jubilee. Jubilee later moved his family out of the neighborhood because of concern for their safety.

In the other case, a Pennsylvania man was convicted of burning a 30-foot cross on private land in rural southern Virginia during a 1998 Klan rally.

Lawyers for Virginia told the court the Klan rally was held after whites became angry about mixed-race couples.

In addition to Virginia, anti-cross burning laws are on the books in California, Connecticut, Delaware, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Montana, North Carolina, South Carolina, South Dakota, Vermont, Virginia, Washington state and the District of Columbia.


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: crossburning; firstamendment
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-55 next last

1 posted on 04/07/2003 11:57:38 AM PDT by Cagey
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Cagey
Go Clarence, go Clarence, go Clarence . . . .

Nowadays / everybody acts like they got somethin to say / but nothin comes out when they move their lips / just a bunch of jibberish / 'cause they forgot about

CLARENCE!

The "silent" justice doesn't just pipe up to hear himself speak.

2 posted on 04/07/2003 12:03:31 PM PDT by JohnnyZ (President of the Ruth Samuelson Fan Club)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Cagey
Thomas, the court's only black member, said the court didn't even have to consider the First Amendment implications because a state has a right to bar conduct it considers "particularly vicious." "Just as one cannot burn down someone's house to make a political point and then seek refuge in the First Amendment, those who hate cannot terrorize and intimidate to make their point," he wrote.

I'm not sure about this. There's a big difference between burning your own cross and burning someone else's cross (not that I condone burning crosses)! I also worry when I hear a justice saying they don't have to even consider the first amendment in this case if the state considers something to be vicious...would it also be considered vicious if I were to burn a photo of the Klintoon? What if I just defaced it with a pen? Slippery slope, imo.

3 posted on 04/07/2003 12:06:11 PM PDT by ellery
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Cagey
Thomas, the court's only black member, said the court didn't even have to consider the First Amendment implications because a state has a right to bar conduct it considers "particularly vicious." "Just as one cannot burn down someone's house to make a political point and then seek refuge in the First Amendment, those who hate cannot terrorize and intimidate to make their point," he wrote.

I'm not sure about this. There's a big difference between burning your own cross and burning someone else's house(not that I condone burning crosses)! I also worry when I hear a justice saying they don't have to even consider the first amendment in this case if the state considers something to be vicious...would it also be considered vicious if I were to burn a photo of the Klintoon? What if I just defaced it with a pen? Slippery slope, imo.

4 posted on 04/07/2003 12:06:39 PM PDT by ellery
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Cagey
Justices Anthony M. Kennedy, David Souter and Ruth Bader Ginsburg dissented on free-speech grounds.

The lefties have a hard time giving up their racists roots.

5 posted on 04/07/2003 12:08:06 PM PDT by Always Right
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: rdb3; Khepera; elwoodp; MAKnight; condolinda; mafree; Trueblackman; FRlurker; Teacher317; ...
Clarence is the man.

Black conservative ping

If you want on (or off) of my black conservative ping list, please let me know via FREEPmail. (And no, you don't have to be black to be on the list!)

Extra warning: this is a high-volume ping list.

6 posted on 04/07/2003 12:08:47 PM PDT by mhking (Join Abdul Vila and Norm Habib, along with the new guy, Sahib Thomas, on the next "This Old Mosque")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: mhking
He did good on this ruling.
7 posted on 04/07/2003 12:10:56 PM PDT by hchutch ("But tonight we get EVEN!" - Ice-T)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Cagey
There is no legitimate reason for someone to ever need to burn a cross. Still, its hard for me to agree to ban the activity if its done on private property away from public view. Also, why would this ban be upheld when we need a constitutional amendment to ban flag-burning:


As seen at Chapel Hill, North Carolina's local anti-war carnival.
8 posted on 04/07/2003 12:11:07 PM PDT by Blackyce (President Jacques Chirac: "As far as I'm concerned, war always means failure.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ellery
Slippery slope, imo.

I have to agree. It's interesting how the court split on this one.

9 posted on 04/07/2003 12:11:56 PM PDT by Cagey
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Cagey
The Supreme Court upheld a state ban on cross burning, ruling Monday the history of racial intimidation attached to it outweighs the free speech protection of Ku Klux Klansmen or others who might use it.

Bravo. Perhaps the SCOTUS will regard the rather reasonable safeguards the state of Texas has implemented to rein in butt-piracy in a similar light.

10 posted on 04/07/2003 12:17:30 PM PDT by HumanaeVitae (Tolerance is a necessary evil.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: JohnnyZ
What 'symbol' is next on the Feds hitlist? If it's against the law to burn a cross because it hurts someone's feelings, can it be against the law to wave a particular flag, again if it's hurts someone's feelings?
A burning cross might well declare to the world, "I hate niggers!", but isn't that the ignorant sots right to declare?
11 posted on 04/07/2003 12:18:16 PM PDT by Gunslingr3
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Cagey
I'm surprised they didn't just ban crosses all together.
12 posted on 04/07/2003 12:18:43 PM PDT by stainlessbanner
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Cagey
The Supreme Court historically has been protective of First Amendment rights of unsavory or unpopular groups and causes, including the Klan, flag-burners, pornographers and strippers.

And the country is far the poorer for it.

13 posted on 04/07/2003 12:21:40 PM PDT by HumanaeVitae (Tolerance is a necessary evil.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Blackyce
"choose not to kill"

except unborn babies...


Do these people eve KNOW what hypocracy is and why the lowest ring of hell is reserved for those? (if I remember Dante correctly)

14 posted on 04/07/2003 12:24:28 PM PDT by Mr. K (<--- (a real bonvivant))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: ellery
Slippery slope indeed.

For example: If the Klan marches down the street in its headgear and robes is that a statement or a threat? Eye of the beholder. Same could be said about a Black Muslim parade.

Freedom of speech/expression is on shakey grounds if it can be disallowed because someone somewhere feels threatened by it. Very shakey grounds!
15 posted on 04/07/2003 12:27:25 PM PDT by ricpic
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: JohnnyZ
The same should apply to burning the US Flag
16 posted on 04/07/2003 12:34:33 PM PDT by Maelstrom (To prevent misinterpretation or abuse of the Constitution:The Bill of Rights limits government power)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: ellery
I'm concerned, as well, that this is a slippery slope. To take your point further, to disallow crossburning due to its "intimidating, and terrorizing" nature removes from the purview of personal responsibility the role the intimidated person plays in the process of intimidation. If I burn a cross, as much as ( and perhaps, regardless of the fact ) that I 've attempted to intimidate you, you still have to option of deciding whether or not to allow yourself to be intimidated. I could very well simply like the sight of a burning cross. Of course, we also have laws in most towns and cities that prohibit unsightly displays on one's own property. ( whether I agree with this or not , I'm not sure) But It seems to me the laws against violence and direct intimidation ( verbal assaults, threats etc. ) should be enough and that the burning of the cross itself should not find a home under the rubric of prohibtions. ...But I concede that perhaps I'm being dogmatically libertarian about all this....

I
17 posted on 04/07/2003 12:38:18 PM PDT by Cosmo (Note to the left: the 1st Ammendment grants me the right to tell you to SHUT THE HELL UP!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: HumanaeVitae
The Supreme Court historically has been protective of First Amendment rights of unsavory or unpopular groups and causes, including the Klan, flag-burners, pornographers and strippers.

And the country is far the poorer for it.

Would we be a 'richer' nation if who was allowed to speak was determined by a pool of 9 individuals and their perception of savory and unsavory? I'm sure there are plenty of people interested in such a power, and not fond of Free Republic...

18 posted on 04/07/2003 12:41:06 PM PDT by Gunslingr3
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: Cagey
For once the Court acted sensibility. What many people don't realize is that cross burning is not intimidating only to black people -- the implication of violence is intimidating to anyone aware of its history of threat. No one has a right to do such incite such fear.
19 posted on 04/07/2003 12:44:33 PM PDT by WaterDragon (Only America has the moral authority and the resolve to lead the world in the 21st Century.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Cagey
This decision proves that members of the SC are just as much influenced by the pressures of conformity as any other group.

The decision is logical nonsense and I am really disappointed in Scalia. I thought he was one who made decisions based on accurate thought rather than emotion.

If they can make burning a cross a crime they can make absolutely anything a crime. All that is required is that there be enough political pressure.

20 posted on 04/07/2003 12:48:55 PM PDT by yarddog
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-55 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson