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Stir Continues Over Columbia Professor's Comments (DeGenova Goes Into Hiding)
Fox News ^ | April 2, 2003 | Catherine Donaldson-Evans

Posted on 04/02/2003 8:19:57 PM PST by Mister Magoo

Edited on 04/22/2004 12:36:02 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: columbia; degenova; iraq; nicholasdegenova
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To: Mister Magoo
De Genova's gone into hiding? Good. I hope the filthy rat never comes back out of his hidey hole.
41 posted on 04/02/2003 8:47:20 PM PST by laz17 (Socialism is the religion of the atheist.)
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To: doug from upland
Ayca Cubukcu ------ what in the hell kind of name is that?

Here's Ayca:


42 posted on 04/02/2003 8:47:34 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Subvert the dominant cliche!)
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To: Paul Atreides
"We feel that the university has failed to protect Nick," anthropology grad student Ayca Cubukcu told the Spectator.

He's on first-name basis with his professor?

You should hear what he calls "Nick" when they're alone.

43 posted on 04/02/2003 8:47:56 PM PST by FredZarguna
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To: Revolting cat!
My last post was meant for you.


And to quote Christopher Lambert, "There can be only one!" Now where did I put that pesky sword?
44 posted on 04/02/2003 8:47:56 PM PST by Rasputin_TheMadMonk (Yes I am a bastard, but I'm a free, white, gun owning bastard. Just ask my exwife.)
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To: lilylangtree
If someone martyred this guy and you were selected to serve on the martyrer's jury, would you vote to convict?
45 posted on 04/02/2003 8:48:33 PM PST by PeoplesRepublicOfWashington
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To: sistergoldenhair
the list
46 posted on 04/02/2003 8:49:16 PM PST by sistergoldenhair (Don't be a sheep. People hate sheep. They eat sheep.)
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To: FredZarguna
"You should hear what he calls "Nick" when they're alone."

Something like "Daddy?" As in "Who's your daddy?"
47 posted on 04/02/2003 8:50:03 PM PST by Rasputin_TheMadMonk (Yes I am a bastard, but I'm a free, white, gun owning bastard. Just ask my exwife.)
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To: Rasputin_TheMadMonk
My wife sleeps with me and I sleep with my weapon available at all times. This creep better not ever get in my sites, somthings should be considered self-defence. We have very low tolerance since 911. We have lost so much, we need to protect our freedom at all cost.
48 posted on 04/02/2003 8:50:19 PM PST by teancumspirit
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To: FredZarguna
It must be the same thing that everyone else is calling him: Nick the Pr*ck.
49 posted on 04/02/2003 8:50:43 PM PST by Paul Atreides
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To: Mister Magoo
In hiding? Yup! But not because of death threats. If figures the university can't fire him if they can't find him and maybe in a few weeks everyone will forget how deeply he shoved his head up his own brown-eye.
50 posted on 04/02/2003 8:51:21 PM PST by Ronin
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To: doug from upland
Ayca Cubukcu ------ what in the hell kind of name is that?

Some idiot spelled that backwards. It's actually "Uckubuc Acya". Jeez, there goes this poor kid's 15 minutes.

51 posted on 04/02/2003 8:51:56 PM PST by FredZarguna
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To: Mister Magoo
I received this today following my email requesting De Genova's prompt dismissal:

On behalf of the Office of University Alumni Relations at Columbia University, I wish to thank you for your e-mail regarding the remarks made by Assistant Professor De Genova last week.

Many members of the Columbia community share your concern and shock, including Columbia University President Lee C. Bollinger. Below you will find an article which appeared in the March 29, 2003, edition of the New York Times. I believe it best describes President Bollinger's reaction, as well as those of the teach-in's organizers.

Again, thank you for sharing your concerns with us.


At Columbia, Call for Death of U.S. Forces Is Denounced
By TAMAR LEWIN

The president of Columbia University said yesterday that he was horrified by the remarks of an anthropology professor who said at a campus antiwar teach-in Wednesday night that he hoped to see "a million Mogadishus" -referring to the city in Somalia where American soldiers were ambushed in a lethal firefight in 1993.

The professor, Nicholas De Genova, also called for the defeat of United States forces in Iraq, and said the only true heroes are those who help defeat the American military. He said Americans who call themselves patriots are imperialist white supremacists.

"Under well-established principles of the First Amendment, this is within a person's right to free speech," Lee C. Bollinger, the president of Columbia, said in an interview. "Not for a second, however, does that insulate it from criticism. I am shocked that someone would make such statements. I am especially saddened for the families of those whose lives are now at risk."

Those who attended the teach-in said most of the audience stayed silent at Professor De Genova's reference to the Mogadishu ambush, an event portrayed in the movie "Black Hawk Down." The raid, on Oct. 3, 1993, in which 18 Americans were killed and 75 injured -and the subsequent broadcast of images of a dead American being dragged through Mogadishu -prompted President Bill Clinton to order a withdrawal of troops from Somalia, where they had been sent to help relieve a famine.

"Professor De Genova's speech did not represent the views of the organizers," said Eric Foner, a history professor who was one of the teach-in's organizers. "I personally found it quite reprehensible. The antiwar movement does not desire the death of American soldiers. We do not accept his view of what it means to be a patriot. I began my talk, which came later, by repudiating his definition of patriotism, saying the teach-in was a patriotic act, that I believe patriots are those who seek to improve their country."

Professor De Genova's voice mail was not accepting messages yesterday. The anthropology department referred all calls concerning him to the public affairs office, where a spokesman said he had no further information on Professor De Genova, who is untenured and teaches anthropology and Latino studies.

The teach-in at Columbia, which went from 6 p.m. to midnight Wednesday and drew an audience of about 3,000, was organized by seven faculty members, who were joined by about two dozen other faculty members speaking on subjects like Middle East relations, civil liberties, pre-emptive war, the Geneva Conventions and Iraqi archaeological sites endangered by the war.



Copyright 2003 The New York Times Company


Aida I. Rivera
Columbia University
University Alumni Relations
475 Riverside Drive, Suite 520
Mail Code 7725
New York, NY 10115

52 posted on 04/02/2003 8:53:00 PM PST by ladywolf
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To: remitrom
More anti-American garbage and poison from the Ivy League.
53 posted on 04/02/2003 8:54:23 PM PST by Cato the Censor
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To: remitrom
More anti-American garbage and poison from the Ivy League.
54 posted on 04/02/2003 8:54:52 PM PST by Cato the Censor
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To: Mister Magoo
The university has not publicly said if De Genova’s job as an assistant professor is in jeopardy over the scandal. De Genova does not have tenure.

This, in and of itself is a HUGE scandal, in my opinion. It is an almost unbelievable outrage that Columbia will not immediately fire this UNTENURED professor for his despicable, traitorous and barbaric remarks, totally unbefitting a supposed teacher of higher learning.

PUT PRESSURE WHERE IT BELONGS. IGNORE DEGENOVA...FREEP THE CRAP OUT OF COLUMBIA.

55 posted on 04/02/2003 8:55:16 PM PST by montag813
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To: Mister Magoo
Boo-frickin-hoo, you traitorous yellow sack o' stool!
56 posted on 04/02/2003 8:57:05 PM PST by Right Angler
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To: Rasputin_TheMadMonk
If you guys haven't read this mental midget's explanation,, you oughta read it now! Keep in mind, this guy has a doctorate in a "scientific" discipline and is instructing our children. He and many like him who haven't yet gotten caught! Yes, he is an embarassment to the well established clique of psuedo-intellectuals at our universities.
57 posted on 04/02/2003 8:57:23 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Subvert the dominant cliche!)
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To: ladywolf
Again, thank you for sharing your concerns with us.

Dear lame-o,
As a conservative, I don't "share concern." That's for pansy asses like you.

I "dispense justice."

Just wanted to clear that up, since "sharing" the planet with you is bad enough.

58 posted on 04/02/2003 8:57:25 PM PST by FredZarguna
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To: Mister Magoo
Some students defended the professor. About two dozen of his students took part in a silent protest on Tuesday, as they sat quietly outside in the rain to show their support of De Genova...

Fine. I think we can find another two dozen more ropes.

59 posted on 04/02/2003 8:57:42 PM PST by F16Fighter (Democrats -- The Party of Stalin and Chiraq)
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To: Mister Magoo
So Columbia is a Muslim school now?

Why on earth would any one want to obtain a degree from a muslin institution?
60 posted on 04/02/2003 8:58:54 PM PST by Kay Soze (For every 100 Osamas created in the fight on terrorism - we shall elect one more "W")
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