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Kaul used to be a commie opinion columnist for the Des Moines Register. When he became too non-controversial for them, they moved him to D.C. ;-) Apparently, he's retired now, and writes for fun.

To his credit, he did not even hint at removing your right to buy an SUV. And, by golly, it almost sounds like the "researchers" got their data by asking non-owners their opinions about SUV-owners.

1 posted on 04/02/2003 9:58:59 AM PST by newgeezer
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"Even the biggest SUVs (and there are some monsters) don't have any more passenger room than, say, a full-sized minivan,..."

What a maroon.

Let this drooler convince me that a Chrysler minivan has the passenger room of my Suburban. Bulls**t.

Let's not even go into "cargo space".

BTW, I have seven children. What minivan will haul my crew?

Dumbass.

154 posted on 04/02/2003 11:44:53 AM PST by RightOnline
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They claim that they buy them because they are:

1.Roomy (for the kids, you know)
2.Safe (don't want to be out there in a tin can)
3.Able to travel in inclement weather (because of the four-wheel drive so many of them have)

4.Because they damn well WANT to, you limp-wristed f#@%ing maggot.

156 posted on 04/02/2003 11:52:49 AM PST by MileHi
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That's why I've always preferred a fullsize truck or van, not one of those "mini" vans or "light" trucks.

Remember, the biggest car always wins.
159 posted on 04/02/2003 1:14:11 PM PST by seams2me
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Too bad for them, I like my "SUV"... even though it is really a CUCV. hehehe...

Mike


160 posted on 04/02/2003 1:20:19 PM PST by BCR #226
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I love my Jeep Grand Cherokee! I will never give it up unless we buy a new Jeep Grand Cherokee. I will never drive a sedan again no matter how much anyone tries to convince me that there is little difference. I'd rather ride a horse than drive a sedan.
161 posted on 04/02/2003 1:21:11 PM PST by FryingPan101 (I love Rummy!)
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I've said it before and I'll say it again: SUV drivers as a class (and I will generalize here) CANNOT stay inside the lines.

Nothing to do with jealousy - if I wanted one, I'd buy one - just pure annoyance. (My theory is that most SUV drivers never did learn to color inside the lines either.)
173 posted on 04/02/2003 2:03:59 PM PST by Xenalyte (I may not agree with your bumper sticker, but I'll defend to the death your right to stick it)
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However, because of their huge size, in a collision with a normal-sized car, they are more apt to kill the occupants of the other vehicle. A Chevy Tahoe, for example, kills 122 people for every 1 million models on the road, while a Honda Accord kills only 21. This what's known as a lose/lose situation.

Sounds like win/lose to me.

175 posted on 04/02/2003 2:08:40 PM PST by Cinnamon Girl
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I'm getting sick of hearing about the evil SUV..... I drove VW's for years and now I drive a Yukon XL......I love the 'dubs but wouldn't trade the SUV for anything... I can haul crap in it, take road trips in comfort and yes....just drive up to the grocery store in it.....you know what? I don't like mini-vans, I don't like Camry's but guess what...last I checked this was still America and I don't have to buy one if I don't like them and those who do like them have the right to buy them regardless of what I think...so why do I have to listen to these dumbarses tell me what to drive?????? argh!!!! /endrant
180 posted on 04/02/2003 2:25:39 PM PST by Newton ("Government is not the solution to our problem. Government is the problem." -R. Reagan 1981)
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No, SUVs are bought, for the most part, by city folk,

I'm not cityfolk.

Roomy (for the kids, you know)
Always nice to have the room.

Safe (don't want to be out there in a tin can)

They are safe.
Able to travel in inclement weather (because of the four-wheel drive so many of them have)
My first car was an 85 Mercury Cougar. Since then I've had two Explorers. No comparison, especially in Michigan Winters.

Which would be fine, except that none of those things is true. By the numbers:

Horsecrap - Personal experience tells me otherwise.

Even the biggest SUVs (and there are some monsters) don't have any more passenger room than, say, a full-sized minivan, which costs thousands of dollars less and is easier to park.

Thousands less? Maybe if you compare a base line minivan vs a Ford Expedition, but there aren't much of a price difference between the two. Easier to park? I can park my Explorer just fine.

SUVs have the distinction of being both more dangerous to themselves and more dangerous to other cars than other vehicles. Because of their high center of gravity, they have a distressing tendency to roll over and their fatality rates are higher than traditional vehicles (6 percent higher on the average; 8 percent in the bigger models).

I never rolled my SUV.

However, because of their huge size, in a collision with a normal-sized car, they are more apt to kill the occupants of the other vehicle. A Chevy Tahoe, for example, kills 122 people for every 1 million models on the road, while a Honda Accord kills only 21. This what's known as a lose/lose situation.

So what? What was the situation in each crash? If some jerk rearends me and dies, whose fault is that? Not mine, unless your cop happens to be Officer Martin of the East Lansing PD and the judge happens to be Judge David Jordon.(No one died in this case)

SUVs are not the only four-wheel drive vehicles around anymore, after all. There are cars with all- and four-wheel drive that are superior in every way to your average SUV.

That's your opinion. I happen to prefer the Explorer.

Keith Bradsher, a New York Times reporter
I should stop reading right here. The paper of jerks like Kristof and Dowd....

SUV buyers, the researchers say, tend to be "insecure and vain, often lack confidence in their driving skills [and] are apt to be self-centered and self-absorbed, with little interest in neighbors and communities."

What? I guess all those that say I'm a cocky SOB need to see this here. LOL. I'm also active in the community. This guy is FOS. Hey! I know what I can do. Take public speaking classes. Give myself the title of Phd. Write a bunch of BS that sounds good and make it a book, and strike it rich!! This guy obviously did it!

On top of every else, these behemoths handle badly, get lousy gas mileage

My 85 Cougar had worse gas mileage than either Explorer. My Explorer handles very well too.

don't have to pay the luxury tax that similarly priced cars have to pay.

Ok. That's not right....it's not right that there's an extra luxury tax......

Time for an opinion from a REAL expert on SUV owners. Me. Here's why I bought my Explorer.

1. Good deal. My parents are the original owner. They sold it to me used for the trade in price and in excellent condition.

2. 4 Wheel Drive. In winters and spring on dirt roads and side streets, it's a Godsend. I never spun out in an Explorer. I have in a Cougar. I don't get stuck in the mud in an Explorer either. Great on hunting trips.

3. Room

4. Higher Up. I can see over other cars.

5. Safer in accidents. Geo Metro or Explorer? No comparison.

183 posted on 04/02/2003 2:53:56 PM PST by Dan from Michigan ("I have two guns. One for each of ya." - Doc Holliday)
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This article is written by another lifestyle nazi whose real agenda is another form of people control. This is actually a form of back door GUN CONTROL. Think about it...if hunters have no way to get to the hunting area and no way to get the big game out of the area...then there is really NO "sporting need" for owning one of those ultra long range SNIPER uhhh err I mean HUNTING rifles! Yeah that's it! It's not about the environment...it's not about conservation...it's about CONTROL.

Forget the gun owners. If you have a vehicle that is capable of moving cross country and you have a government that is interested in controlling the movement of the population..that's an initial conflict to be overcome. They're setting us up for totalitarian rule. I kid you not!

190 posted on 04/02/2003 3:14:59 PM PST by ExSoldier (My OTHER auto is a .45!)
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Donald "Lefty" Kaul may abhor the SUV and those who drive them, but as an owner of a number of SUV’s since the 1980’s, I can say in all honesty that the SUV has not only saved my life and others’ but has made my life easier and less stressful.

I guess I am another one of those “high and mighty” fascists who enjoy blitzkrieging around the countryside thumbing my high and mighty nose at the peasants in smaller sized cars, but then again, why not – it’s fun! I enjoy the extra height the SUV gives me allowing me to actually see what is coming up ahead on the roadways. The roominess allows me and others in my family to stretch our long beautiful American legs while we gaze (from a height) at the fascinating scenery going by. Finally and most important, I can get to work on time without having to shovel 4 feet of snow off the driveway at 6 in the morning. All good reasons to own one.

As for Mr. Kaul and Mr. Bradsher, their right not to purchase an SUV is guaranteed by the democratic capitalist system in our nation, however limited it may be. I reserve my right to own, enjoy, stretch out in, give rides to the envious, and forge my way through the weather in the almighty SUV.

Mr. Kaul, if I see you standing by the side of a road somewhere, I will temporarily suspend my self centeredness and self absorption to give you a ride. You need not fear me: SUV drivers have the cleanest criminal records around. It’s those sedan and mini van car drivers that hitchhikers have to worry about.

191 posted on 04/02/2003 3:19:06 PM PST by eleni121
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I think most SUVs, at least stock, are pretty silly. They're all pretty impractical for off-road use, and look like the owner wants to "look" like they could go 'froadin, without actually doing it. But what do I care if they drive 'em? Personally I'd never drive one -- I'm more than happy in my Jeep. (complete w/ a bumper sticker that says "Don't follow me...You won't make it.")
195 posted on 04/02/2003 7:06:02 PM PST by Proud2BAmerican
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I thinks its a good model: A persons intelligence is usually inversely related to the size of their vehicle....I think that applies to SUV drives BIGTIME!
200 posted on 04/02/2003 7:42:39 PM PST by anncoulteriscool
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****Every way except one. You can't bully other vehicles with a car the way you can with an SUV. And that's what the extraordinary popularity of the SUV is about---bullying.***

To my experience this is very true....i used to say SUV drivers wanna drive like dale earnhardt but they wanna do it in the right hand lane...come tough guys....if ya wanna drive like a NASCAR man why dont ya step out into the left lane with the BIG BOYS....I think we know why they don't!

202 posted on 04/02/2003 7:45:00 PM PST by anncoulteriscool
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***Does that sound familiar or what? Picture the typical SUV driver---the beady, close-set eyes of a serial killer set above a snarl that could curdle a latte. ****

Uh...there i disagree....after all...didn't ted Bundy drive a Volkswagan!

203 posted on 04/02/2003 7:46:46 PM PST by anncoulteriscool
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Those hard working, honest oil execs deserve my money.
204 posted on 04/02/2003 7:47:57 PM PST by NeilSmith
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SUV buyers, the researchers say, tend to be "insecure and vain, often lack confidence in their driving skills [and] are apt to be self-centered and self-absorbed, with little interest in neighbors and communities." Does that sound familiar or what? Picture the typical SUV driver---the beady, close-set eyes of a serial killer set above a snarl that could curdle a latte. And that's just the women. The men are worse. Think of Hitler's Panzer divisions invading Poland.

1989 Ford Bronco XLT--11 MPG--Any Questions?

214 posted on 04/03/2003 1:12:55 PM PST by two23
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