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Can You Back the Troops and Oppose War?
The Weekly Standard ^ | 04/02/2003 6:20:00 AM | Terry Eastland

Posted on 04/02/2003 8:16:37 AM PST by yonif

BOUNCING AROUND the Internet is a photo of a huge banner that was carried in the recent "peace" demonstration in San Francisco. The banner says, "We support our troops when they shoot their officers."

Now, the calm response to that banner is that "our troops," were they to shoot "their officers," would be violating the oath they take upon enlisting, which obligates them to obey "the orders of [superior] officers," which don't include shooting or otherwise committing acts of violence against those officers. And such acts, it probably doesn't have to be pointed out, aren't merely violations of the oath of enlistment but duly punishable crimes.

Among the terrible early stories of the war is that of the Army captain who was killed after a serviceman rolled a grenade under his tent. The blast also injured 15 soldiers, one of whom later died. An Army sergeant, in custody, is suspected of the crime. Presumably, he or whoever pulled the pin on the grenade is exactly the kind of soldier some war protesters "support."

To be sure, there are protesters who define their "support" for "our troops" in more appealing terms. Indeed, as The New York Times has reported, "demonstrators [save, it appears, for some in San Francisco] have been careful to express their admiration for those serving in the armed forces." But only for them. The anti-war movement has settled on a formulation that simultaneously expresses its support for "our troops" and its opposition to the president who commands them, George W. Bush.

Rep. Charles Rangel of New York has stated it succinctly: "We support the troops, but we don't support the president."

That is morally better than supporting our troops "when they shoot their officers." Yet what does it mean, what can it mean, to support the troops but not the president?

Not very much. The protesters "support" the troops in the sense that they hope our men and women in uniform will be okay, notwithstanding their dangerous environment. To spell out the obvious, they hope our troops won't suffer death or injury or capture, nor hunger, nor (too much) sleep deprivation, nor (another) blinding sandstorm.

But note that the protesters' "support" doesn't extend to the troops' actual mission. Consider that the oath of enlistment obligates each soldier to obey "the orders of the president of the United States." President Bush's orders to disarm Iraq and effect regime change, given to the Pentagon and our armed forces, are precisely what the protesters oppose. Thus, they are unable to support our armed forces in Iraq in the discharge of the very responsibility they have accepted and that matters most to the country--the execution of their mission.

Those who oppose the war but meanwhile declare their "support for the troops" may feel better for having made that declaration. And they may think that, by voicing such "support," they and their cause will look better to a country overwhelmingly behind the president and that supports our armed forces as they seek to accomplish their mission. But the support the protesters offer our troops is beside the point.

What isn't trivial is the act of a U.S. soldier who actually disagreed with the president's decision to go to war but who nonetheless has accepted his duty and now is carrying it out. The decision to go to war, whether one agrees with it or not, belongs to civilian authority, not the military. It is the responsibility of the soldier to live up to the oath of enlistment and thus to obey the orders that come ultimately from the commander in chief, the president. To refuse those orders would be wrong. The protesters may be astonished to learn that American soldiers may have thought more--and more clearly--about the morality of using force in Iraq than they have.

We may be in for a longer war than many armchair generals once advised. If so, we can expect more demonstrations. And no doubt more statements of "support" that fail to recognize the duties of a soldier.

Terry Eastland is publisher of The Weekly Standard. This article originally appeared in the April 1, 2003 Dallas Morning News.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: antiwar; iraq; support; terryeastland; troops; war
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To: RWG
Weren't the democRATS refraining from applauding at one of Bush's addresses to both houses?

Yes, at only parts of the address. And had you been watching closely, at those same parts of the address, the military officers weren't applauding either. The officers actually clapped less than anyone in the room. I would guess only at about 60% of those parts of the speech that drew applause. They were quite careful not to applaud matters of politics, even where all others were applauding.

What you have done is confuse the word "support." Giving support for policy decisions designed to win the war, is not the same as support for the political decision to go to war. Your attempt to politicise the soldier, is exactly what the anti-war movement did during most of the Vietnam war. Regardless of what side it is done for, it is a misuse of the soldier, who is completely innocent of the political decision which sends him to war.

Supporting the military decision to go for total victory in the war, is not the same as supporting the political decision to go to war.

181 posted on 04/05/2003 12:33:01 AM PST by jackbob
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To: jackbob
it is a misuse of the soldier, who is completely innocent of the political decision which sends him to war...not so. Remember this administration has warned iraqi generals and soldiers that they will be held accountable for all orders they give or follow.
182 posted on 04/05/2003 6:48:02 AM PST by RWG
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To: RWG
...not so.

Not so? what are you saying? Its OK to use our soldiers for internal American political purposes, because we warned Iraqi soldiers (as we do ours during training) that as soldiers, they will be held accountable for illegal orders given and illegal orders followed. The two are unrelated. Do you have any idea of what you are talking about?

183 posted on 04/05/2003 8:30:28 AM PST by jackbob
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This is really tiresome. We have an all volunteer army. Those who enlist have indicated that they will do as the commander in chief directs without qualification. His decision has already been affirmed by the members of the military even before there was anything to decide. This does not make them mindless or robots. Soldiers have agreed to execute any war and any other action even before there is such. They support the war. Bush supports the war. Anti-American leftists are using flawed but pc logic when they try to separate the willingness of the warrior from their resistance to it. I am anti-abortion but I support a woman's right to have one. Nonsense.
184 posted on 04/05/2003 9:01:10 AM PST by RWG
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To: RWG
Those who enlist have indicated that they will do as the commander in chief directs without qualification.

Here you are absolutely wrong. You know nothing of military law. The relationship between the president and the soldiers, are full of qualifications. You may wish our Army were run like the Iraqi Army, but it is not.

They support the war.

Without a doubt, they as American citizens (the soldiers), support the war, as do most American citizens. But as I explained in #181, you have confused the usage of the word "support" with regards to soldiers. Your inability to distinguish between support of the mission to achieve total victory, and support of the political decision to go to war, allows you to imply that the soldiers are politically supporting the President domesticly (not domestic issues, for clarity), because they are of "one mind," with him.

Again I repeat, American soldiers are not robots. They are not of "one mind," with the President. And yes this is getting tiring.

185 posted on 04/05/2003 9:42:34 AM PST by jackbob
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To: jackbob
Ok then, I'm all for the war but I do not support the troops.
186 posted on 04/05/2003 1:51:41 PM PST by RWG
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To: RWG
You've got. Just leave the politics out of it, and you support both. There is no politics in calling for our defeat (just treason). And no politics in calling for victory, just patriotism. Which really supports the troops.
187 posted on 04/05/2003 2:11:50 PM PST by jackbob
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To: RWG
You are all for the war. I am all for the war effort. By being for both, you can claim one up on me.
188 posted on 04/05/2003 2:16:07 PM PST by jackbob
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