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To: Mortimer Snavely; JackRyanCIA
MS...all you can infer from your dewey eyed little story is that at least one turk is not a thief, no more than that.

I reiterate...the only salient fact is immutable...turkey betrayed us to climb into bed with the EU. Our troops are paying for that betrayal in blood, even as we speak.

84 posted on 04/02/2003 12:47:45 PM PST by wtc911
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To: wtc911
"...the only salient fact is immutable...turkey betrayed us..."

Turks can make the same valid observation about the USA's coddling of PKK supporters over here. The Turks dealt with a 9/11 every time the PKK rolled into a village and shot it to pieces, killing everything that drew breath. After the First Gulf War, I may add. Turkish security was compromised, not enhanced, by US actions after that war. There was no confrontation or repudiation of these Pol Pot types here in the USA by anyone worth mention, and promised aid to supplant the loss of revenue from Turkey's unilateral decision to cut off trade with Iraq never materialized. Turkey lost tens of thousands of people and suffered an economic catastrophe in the aftermath.

In the mature, adult world, it is understood that nations form alliances on the basis of mutual advantage. American actions regarding Turkey are little better than JFK's undermining anti-Castro Cubans during the Bay of Pigs and the overthrow of the Diem government in South Vietnam.

US actions have established the fact that any nation trying to free themselves from communist subversion are damned fools to trust the socialists running Washington. It gets you betrayed, stranded on the beach, and killed. The president of South Viet Nam, assassinated with Kennedy White House approval, found this to be true. The Turks, fighting mass murdering Communists, have also found this to be true.

If you are fighting Communism, working with Americans, or the American government, is likely to get you betrayed and killed, whether you are a Cuban, a South Vietnamese, or a Turk.

As far as fighting Marxism-Leninism is concerned, it appears to the countries with most to lose from Marxist subversion, that the American government has switched sides.

The Turks want command and control of Turkish forces in Northern Iraq to subdue and destroy Communist Kurdish terrorists there. Washington said no, and you apparently see no problem with that. No country in its right mind will support an action which potentially threatens it, and can not support any action which ensures that it is absolutely unable to protect itself.

This is really a new variation on a forty year old problem. If you want to blame anyone for this Northern Iraq debacle, and for the damage US troops will incur as a result, blame yourself and those who think like you. It's folks like you and those who think like you who helped us lose Vietnam. You will ensure that yet more Red barbarians rise up and slaughter everyone unable to resist them.

85 posted on 04/02/2003 11:43:43 PM PST by Mortimer Snavely (More Power to the Troops! More Bang for the Buck!)
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