Islam's rules for POWs (Geneva Convention comes second)

News24.com ^ | March 24th, 2003

[Sabertooth]

London - Prisoners of war in Iraqi hands will be treated in accordance with "the teachings of Islam," Iraq's Foreign Minister Naji Sabri told the BBC on Monday.

Sabri, in Egypt to rally Arab governments against what he called US and British "colonialism, neo-colonialism and war," said Islamic principles took precedence over the Geneva Convention.

"First of all, we are committed to the teachings of Islam. We are faithful Muslims. We take care of our prisoners of war in accordance with our teachings of Islam," he told BBC radio's The World At One program.

"We are committed first of all to the teachings of Islam, and second we are committed to the conventions of Geneva in dealing with the prisoners of war," he said.

"We are the people who created law when the grandfathers of Mr Blair and Mr Bush (British Prime Minister Tony Blair and US President George W Bush) were living like animals in the caves," he said.

Sabri left Baghdad under heavy bombardment to travel via Syria to the Egyptian capital Cairo where the 22-nation Arab League was meeting to try and reach consensus over the US-led invasion to oust Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein.

He spoke to the BBC amid US and British outrage that five captured US soldiers had been shown on Iraqi television in a weekend broadcast that also included footage of four US corpses.

Sabri would not comment on military tactics, except to claim that the latest situation was "excellent."

[DKM]

"We are the people who created law when the grandfathers of Mr Blair and Mr Bush (British Prime Minister Tony Blair and US President George W Bush) were living like animals in the caves," he said

And you are now the people who are cowering in caves, bravely surrounding yourself with women and children like the cowardly scared rabbits that you are.............

[DKM]

"We are the people who created law when the grandfathers of Mr Blair and Mr Bush (British Prime Minister Tony Blair and US President George W Bush) were living like animals in the caves," he said

And you are now the people who are cowering in caves, bravely surrounding yourself with women and children like the cowardly scared rabbits that you are.............

[Florida_Freeper]

BAPTISE em

Why would you give them such honors....I'm not all that religeous, so no flames please, but I'd just as soon let these barbarians follow their own path South to Muhammed.

[concerned about politics]

Didn't Saddam claim to be some spin off of Catholocism (sp)? He only became "Muslim" this past year?
Iraq was never considered a Muslim nation, right?

[Lorenb420]

You mean like:

"The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and his messenger and strive after corruption in the land will be to be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet and genitals cut off, or to be expelled out of the land. Such will be their humiliation in the world, and in the next world they will face an awful horror." (Koran, 5:33-34)

Hopefully the US can rescue the POWs before it's too late, and if not, I hope someone brings a blow torch and a pair of pliers for Naji Sabri and anyone else involved!!

[ApesForEvolution]

I don't know about that, but I do know that Sodom believes himself to be the reincarnation of King Nebuchadnezzer (sic?).

[concerned about politics]

reincarnation of King Nebuchadnezzer (sic?).

Riencarnation is Buddist. Hmmmm. The guys a freak.

[FReepaholic]

>>...We are the people who created law when the grandfathers of Mr Blair and Mr Bush (British Prime Minister Tony Blair and US President George W Bush) were living like animals in the caves," he said....

HA ha ha ha!!

Well, it looks like the grandchildren have passed the Iraqis and have them about a hundred laps down.

[alkiburki]

Then I say the Geneva Convention should not be of concern to us. Let's follow the Emeril Legasse convention and bury them in pork fat.

Hey, it works for me.

[Van Jenerette]

Interesting read on topic....

http://www.kashmirherald.com/featuredarticle/islamandprisonersofwar.html

Guide to the Perplexed Regarding the Permissibility of Killing Prisoners," which appeared in the column "Jihad News from the Land of the Caucasus".  In this the author suggests that the Islamic religious scholars present five different alternatives, drawn from the various interpretations of the Koran:

1) A polytheist prisoner must be killed. No amnesty may be granted to him, nor can he be ransomed.
2) All infidel polytheists and the People of the Book (i.e., Jews and Christians) are to be killed. They may not be granted amnesty, nor can they be ransomed.
3) Amnesty and ransom are the only two ways to deal with prisoners.
4) Amnesty and ransom are possible only after the killing of a large number of prisoners.
5) The Imam, or someone acting on his behalf, can choose between killing, amnesty, ransom or enslaving the prisoner.

[Centurion2000]

Wonderful. I just hope some Army/AF nuclear weapon specialists are painting the prisoners' names on some tacnukes. 1 for each prisoner killed.

No more mercy and goodness; burn them to the bedrock.

[proust1]

bump!

[RonF]

Actually, Saddam is reported to see himself as a modern-day successor to Saladin, the Arab chieftan who threw the Crusaders out of the Holy Land.

[brewcrew]

"We are the people who created law when the grandfathers of Mr Blair and Mr Bush (British Prime Minister Tony Blair and US President George W Bush) were living like animals in the caves," he said.

A very, very special brand of arrogance this a--hole possesses.

[JeepInMazar]

Get Jihad in Light of the Quran and the Hadith. This is an audio CD by a former member of the Muslim Brotherhood who is now a Christian. He quotes directy from the Quran and the Hadith in Arabic and explains the meanings in English. Available from Spear Books.

[MadJack]

Does the Iraqi version of POW treatment mirror that is espoused on Islamist websites? I have seen a document titled "Rulings on the Permissibility of Executing Prisoners of War." It gives the boys a green light when dealing with us infidels. And since the very secular Saddam has been quoting the Koran to legitimize himself, I guess all those references to "smiting at their necks", etc. also factor into the equation.
Let's roll and get this over.

[Arizona Pard]

I dunno. Pretty smart move on Sahbri's part, taking a powder into Egypt. Then when things get hot at home he's already on extended diplomatic leave. Yep, no war crimes for him, he wasn't even there! Clever. (sarcasm off now)

[Sabertooth]

Hussein is fond of both Saladin and Nebuchadnezzar. And....

	The Rise of Babylon, by Charles H. Dyer with Angela Elwell Hunt …Dyer points out Saddam Hussein's own plans to emulate King Nebuchadnezzar as evidenced in a commemorative medal he had cast with the ancient king's profile and his own side by side. In addition to the hanging gardens of Babylon and the unification of the surrounding nations, King Nebuchadnezzar is perhaps most noted for the sacking of Jerusalem and the captivity of the Jewish people. The author reveals how Hussein's followers already recognize him as today's equivalent of that ancient king: The tour guide at a reconstructed palace in Babylon described with enthusiasm the restored monument of the ancient city...she got to the throne room and pointed to the empty platform. "This is where the Saddam Hussein had his throne. This is where Saddam Hussein sat," she said, voice rising in pride. The short, stout woman looked around at the quizzical faces, then caught herself with a nervous laugh. "I mean Nebuchadnezzar... Nebuchadnezzar had his throne here." LINK
Iraqi stamp issued on "Palestine Day," 1997 Saddam Hussein and Saladin, Islamic captor of Jerusalem Behind them, is the Dome of the Rock, al-Aqsa Mosque in Jerusalem Born on April 28, 1937, in Tikrit, the seat of Saladdin Province.	Jerrold Post Author of Political Paranoia: the Psychopolitics of Hatred Statement of 12/1990, before the House Armed Services Committee Inspired by his uncle's tales of heroism in the service of the Arab nation, Saddam has been consumed by dreams of glory since his earliest days. He identifies himself with Nebuchadnezzar, the King of Babylonia who conquered Jerusalem (586 B.C.) and Saladin who regained Jerusalem in 1187 by defeating the Crusaders…. In pursuit of his messianic dreams, there is no evidence he is constrained by conscience; his only loyalty is to Saddam Hussein… LINK

[Lee Enfield]

Unless I am mistaken the Arabs were still humping camels while the Assyrians and other Mesopotamians were inventing civilization. The Assyrians are now oppressed by the Arabs in Iraq.

[L,TOWM]

Would that be the same palace that got renovated by the 6 JDAM's at about 1230 hours (est) last Friday? While the Shiites that live on the east bank of the Tigris were lining the bank on the opposite shore, cheering?