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To: seamole; SoldiersGirl
I didn't focus closely on the video, but there was one American who had suffered a fatal head wound but had also suffered a disabling shot in the chest. The chest wound was stanched, but there was no treatment for the head wound.

Without knowing the details of the firefight, it is hard to comment on this. He could have been wounded in the fight and then shot a second time during the fight. I don't know. I just do not think there is enough evidence to say they were executed.

As for the pants being undone, this could have been done for multiple reasons including searching them. Again, I don't know. The problem I have is making accusations that might be proven false later on could come back to be thrown in our face. I would rather be sure of the facts than speculate about things like this. There are plenty of things to be angry about and to get your blood boiling without the speculation.

2,657 posted on 03/24/2003 11:15:14 AM PST by killjoy
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To: killjoy
You mean the Kevlar vests and helmets failed?
2,664 posted on 03/24/2003 11:16:11 AM PST by abnegation
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To: killjoy
Had the soldiers been killed in action, they would have worn their helmets. They all had bullets holes in the center of their foreheads. Hence, no helmets on at the time of the shots and exact placement of bullet holes = execution. Logical deduction?
2,674 posted on 03/24/2003 11:19:02 AM PST by Carolinamom
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To: killjoy
I really wish you would cease rationalizing what was done to our service men and women.

The Red Cross is on record as this is a clear violation of the Geneva Convention.

I'll say no more unless you persist, but I have plenty to say if you keep harping on your ill-founded point.
2,683 posted on 03/24/2003 11:21:01 AM PST by cyncooper ("Some of the Iraqis... 'told me they would commit suicide if American bombing didn't start.'")
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To: killjoy
Pants down - my guess is they wanted to check to see if they had a certain medical procedure performed. (i.e. Are they circumcized and possibly Jewish) [ Maybe they aren't aware that a large number of Americans are circumcized ]

Gum

2,685 posted on 03/24/2003 11:21:25 AM PST by ChewedGum (The adults are in charge again...and boy is it nice!)
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To: killjoy
Have you heard any of the 1st gulf war POWs talk about their experience while being a POW in Iraq? I have and I don't think Iraq deserves the benefit of the doubt here. Not in the slightest way!
2,687 posted on 03/24/2003 11:21:44 AM PST by Green
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To: killjoy
A deers heart is the size of your fist. The kill area on a deer is the size of a dinner plate with the heart in the middle. A deer standing still at 100 yards with open sights you could probably put one shot in the heart, three I doubt. And I'm pretty sure the target wasn't standing their with his helmet off letting them try to hit it.
2,733 posted on 03/24/2003 11:28:52 AM PST by mtbrandon49 ("Beware the fury of a patient man")
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To: killjoy
There's a radio talk show host here in Seattle on KVI named Bryan Suits who is active duty military. He served in GW I and Bosnia. His job in Bosnia was dealing with the investigation of war crimes, executions, assasinations, and mass murder. He said he has seen literally hundreds of executed people and he has absolutely no doubt that those soldiers were shot up close in the forehead with a rifle, execution-style.

He was apoplectic yesterday when he saw the pictures and video. He says these guys were executed, period.

As to why their pants are around their ankles, one can only imagine the worst...

2,741 posted on 03/24/2003 11:30:28 AM PST by SW6906
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To: killjoy; seamole; SoldiersGirl
I didn't focus closely on the video, but there was one American who had suffered a fatal head wound but had also suffered a disabling shot in the chest.

Shot after his Kevlar was removed.

I guess he musta taken it off in the heat of the battle, non?

2,758 posted on 03/24/2003 11:35:09 AM PST by null and void
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