Fake gun lands costumed 6th grader five-day suspension

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[Khepera]

any school that teaches that a toy gun is a weapon cannot be trusted to give intelligent information on any subject.

[ladylib]

New Jersey is famous for the shoot-'em-up with the fingers case and the case where two boys shot up their classroom with paper guns and had to go to court over it. They were acquitted and one parent is suing the school district. The parent also removed his son from the public schools. Smart move. Hope the money he makes off the case can pay his kid's tuition.

These administrators are idiots. I'd love some wiseguy kid to ask his teacher if he thinks shooting fingers are an effective weapon in Iraq.

[Coleus]

Rutherford Institute Sues on Behalf of Irvington, NJ, Child in a "Paper Gun" Incident

I think someone should contact the Rutherford Institute about this incident too. I just did. The Treskunov’s should sue!!!

[Calpernia]

Oh, I can make this even worse. Last year, a school suspended 5 year olds for play 'cowboys and Indians' with NO TOY! They were using there fingers as guns.

NJ has really gone over the deep end. If anyone needs to see an article on that....hit me back. I'm working on something now. That is why I didn't look it up.

[Coleus]

We Were Lucky!

If you lived as a child in the 60s or the 70s. (Some of us in the 40s and 50s), looking back, it's hard to believe that we have lived as long as we have.................

As children, we would ride in cars with no seat belts or air bags. Riding in the back of a pickup truck on a warm day was always a special treat.

Our baby cribs were covered with bright colored lead-based paint. We had no childproof lids on medicine bottles, doors, or cabinets, and when we rode our bikes, we had no helmets. (Not to mention hitchhiking to town as a young kid!)

We drank water from the garden hose and not from a bottle.

Horrors.

We would spend hours building our go-carts out of scraps and then rode down the hill, only to find out we forgot the brakes. After running into the bushes a few times we learned to solve the problem.

We would leave home in the morning and play all day, as long as we were back when the street lights came on.

No one was able to reach us all day. No cell phones.

Unthinkable.

We played dodgeball and sometimes the ball would really hurt.

We got cut and broke bones and broke teeth and there were no lawsuits from these accidents.
They were accidents. No one was to blame but us.
Remember accidents?

We had fights and punched each other and got black and blue and learned to get over it.

We ate cupcakes, bread and butter, and drank sugar soda but we were never overweight........ we were always outside playing.

We shared one grape soda with four friends, from one bottle and no one died from this?

We did not have Playstations, Nintendo 64, X Boxes, video games at all, 99 channels on cable, video tape movies, surround sound, personal cellular phones, Personal Computers, Internet chat rooms, .................. we had friends.

We went outside and found them. We rode bikes or walked to a friend's home and knocked on the door, or rung the bell or just walked in and talked to them.

Imagine such a thing. Without asking a parent! By ourselves!

Out there in the cold cruel world! Without a guardian. How did we do it?

We made up games with sticks and tennis balls and ate worms and although we were told it would happen, we did not put out very many eyes, nor did the worms live inside us forever.

Little League had tryouts and not everyone made the team. Those who didn't had to learn to deal with disappointment.....

Some students weren't as smart as others so they failed a grade and were held back to repeat the same grade.....Horrors! Tests were not adjusted for any reason.

Our actions were our own. Consequences were expected.

No one to hide behind.

The idea of a parent bailing us out if we broke a law was unheard of. They actually sided with the law, imagine that!

This generation has produced some of the best risk-takers and problem solvers and inventors,ever. The past 50 years has been an explosion of innovation and new ideas. We had freedom, failure, success and responsibility, and we learned how to accept, cope with, ignore and/or handle the situation.

And you're one of them.

Congratulations!

Pass this on to others that were blessed to grow up as kids, before lawyers and government regulations took effect..... for our own good?

I will add this one:

Playing army, cowboys and Indians and cops and robbers with toy guns or fingers with your friends without the threat of getting arrested by the police or suspended from school.

We could say prayers in school before we ate our lunch.

[firewalk]

bttt

[jjm2111]

All of what you said happened in NJ too! :)

[d-back]

Montclair is most definitely a City of Evil! (When it comes to the Second Amendment, there are lots of other candidates in New Jersey: Newark, Camden, Princeton, etc etc.) Still, Montclair deserves special mention. Filled with Limousine Liberals like Olympia Dukakis and Bill Bradley, the town is a center for Million Mom morons. There's even a "nuclear free" peace park on Park Street.

In fact, the Association of New Jersey Rifle and Pistol Clubs (the local NRA affiliate) sued Montclair because teachers gave out Commie Mommie sheets to the kids.

Check out the link here: http://www.anjrpc.org/Old_Stuff/montclair.htm

[Coleus]

http://www.anjrpc.org/Old_Stuff/montclair.htm

Yep, and Montcliar is the home of the Northern NJ Chapter of Cease Fire NJ.

http://www.ceasefirenj.org/cfessex.htm

http://www.ceasefirenj.org/march2001.htm#mn1
http://www.ceasefirenj.org/march2001.htm#mn2
http://www.ceasefirenj.org/march2001.htm#mn3
http://www.ceasefirenj.org/march2001.htm#mn4
http://www.ceasefirenj.org/march2001.htm#mn5
http://www.ceasefirenj.org/march2001.htm#mn6
http://www.ceasefirenj.org/march2001.htm#mn7

North Jersey Chapter
PO Box 43387 – Upper Montclair, New Jersey 07043
Tel: 973-744-3813 FAX: 973-655-1945
E-mail: Essex@CeaseFireNJ.org

[Coleus]

There is also an "AIDS" memorial Park on Grove and Walnut if I am not mistaken.

[Ed_in_NJ]

And they've just lowered the minimum GPA for new teachers from 2.75 to 2.5!

[FourPeas]

The really sad part is, this isn't news. This same stupidity happens weekly (daily?) all over the US.

[d-back]

You're correct. The P.C. levels in Montclair are stultifying.

[ladylib]

A friend of mine grew up in Montclair. He absolutely hated it. The liberal pc nonsense was apparent even 25 years ago. He now lives in Arizona.

[Coleus]

So, it started that long ago? Actually, I think it sarted sometime in the 70's when the NY Slimes wrote an article about Montclair and how nice it was with a train station that goes to NYC. I hear Aridzona is nice especially in the Tuscon area.

[dead]

Three years ago, I actually put in a bid on a house in Montclair. I was outbid, thankfully. I never really thought to look into the overall politics of the town, figuring that all North Jersey towns were the same.

I found out differently.

The town I eventually bought in has a shooting range with pistol and rifle clubs (even for the kids! horrors!). We also have a solid conservative Republican mayor, who is a close associate of Schundler. And there were alot more "Bush/Cheney" lawn signs than "Gore/Lieberman" ones. In fact, I don't remember seeing any of those.

[dead]

I didn't realize that this was an old thread till after I posted. I followed a link here from some other story about how out of control Montclair is.

[Coleus]

Yea, Montclair really changed after a NY Slimes article back in the 1970's which showed a nice old, bucolic town with a train station and in driving distance to NYC and , it wasn't long before the NY liberals started to move into the once Conservative WASP town. The town is really pathetic. They have a "peace" corner which we took over during the war--we forced them across the street!! They are back now every Friday holding up their signs, there is also an AIDS memorial park, the home chapter of Cease Fire is there, etc. They township now wants to leave Essex county and join Passaic county due to the high taxes rate Essex county assesses.

You are better off living where you are.