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B52's Leaving Fairford United Kingdom
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| March 18, 2003
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Posted on 03/19/2003 12:49:50 PM PST by richardtavor
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At 1808 GMT (1:08 p.m. EST, 9:08 p.m. Baghdad) B-52 bombers were reported taking off from RAF Fairford in the United Kingdom. Flying time to Iraq is about six hours. Earlier today, they were reportedly loaded with cruise missiles. The British press has also reported that skirmishing has commenced between Iraqi troops and U.S. and British special operations forces near Basra. Coalition aircraft also have attacked 10 Iraqi artillery pieces in the southern no-fly zone, and Israelis have been ordered to open and fit their gas masks, keeping them nearby at all times.
War has not yet commenced, but this is a war alert. More information will be forthcoming as it is available.
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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: endgameapproaches; stratfor; warlist
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To: PhiKapMom
Is this the only place we're really watching for B-52's to take off from?
81
posted on
03/19/2003 1:29:28 PM PST
by
Peach
To: Stopislamnow
Let's hear it for the Cowboys!!!
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
We cant watch for them taking off from Diego Garcia...
To: MattGarrett
I believe there was a request that NO MILITARY INFORMATION BE POSTED, Dude. What part of that did you NOT understand?
You don't understand ANY of it, apparently; the original FR "Loose Lips" concept dealt with people PERSONALLY reporting info, like "I just saw X take off from X"
Personally, I've never seen any info even along THOSE lines on FR that ever would be remotely useful to an enemy, but it's not all that unreasonable a request.
Following your warped thinking we need to shut down FR for the next week, as I don't think you can stop people posting major media articles containing military information.
Nothing about reposting other already public stories. Once it's out there, it's out there, and I assure you that Iraq is watching BBC, MSNBC, CNN, etc. directly, not prowling FR to find what people watching the news are seeing.
LOSE LIPS SINK SHIPS.
Err, it's "Loose" of course, and actually, they didn't; the "LOOSE LIPS SINK SHIPS" campaign was basically a US Government propaganda move in 1942 to distract the public from the abject failure of the US Navy to defend against U-boat attacks along the East Coast; as it turned out, intelligence from ports played NO ROLE whatsoever in the German success. It was bumbling by the Navy, and a failure to order coastal communities to turn their lights off; they were afraid of "hurting tourism."
Unfortunately the whole "LOOSE LIPS" thing on FR has mutated into clueless busybodies making themselves feel self-righteous and important and feel like they're "doing something" by wandering around chastising people for reposting info from the media here.
84
posted on
03/19/2003 1:31:50 PM PST
by
John H K
To: Peach
We have B-52's at Diego Garcia with out B-2's but wouldn't think there will be pictures coming from out of there since it is an Island in the Indian Ocean. They will be coming in from the South!
85
posted on
03/19/2003 1:32:17 PM PST
by
PhiKapMom
(Get the US out of the UN and the UN out of the US)
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To: PhiKapMom
Thanks for the info.
87
posted on
03/19/2003 1:36:43 PM PST
by
Peach
To: John H K
It all started on a night around here when people were reporting the number of planes taking off, number of people called up and deployed, and a lot of inside information that just kept getting worse. At the time we were building up to go into Afghanistan and what was being reported wasn't public information. That made me post what I did and the thought police have now become active.
88
posted on
03/19/2003 1:37:46 PM PST
by
PhiKapMom
(Get the US out of the UN and the UN out of the US)
To: PhiKapMom
I think I saw on Foxnews channel one of the military analysts indicated that there might be some B-2's in England also!
To: John H K
clueless busybodies making themselves feel self-righteous and importantAmen!!
I have gotten sick of people saying things about loose lips every time someone post a publicly reported story.
A couple of days ago the Pentagon put out a news release & a half dozen people chastized the person who posted it
To: MadIvan
Re. exchanging WMD for "Cutters"; heck; let's give 'em a big ol' MOAB kiss just to show our appreciation!
As far as i know (which ain't much I'll grant you) tactical nukes were an option in response to WMD at one point. Does anyone know if that is still the plan? I would imagine that seeing a few thermonuclear fireballs rising into the night Iraqi sky and feeling the desert buck and tremble under their boots might have a vast educational impact on other surviving Crews considering a WMD launch.
If any WMD happen to fall upon Israel, coalition Forces might do well to just get well clear and upwind of Baghdad... very quickly!
I have little doubt that this ball will be over not long after Hell's first egg is laid - and that may well be happening as I post this.
The only question is what kind of mess will be left for the living to clean up, and possibly how long before the area around what used to be Baghdad might be inhabitable by any living thing.
And I hope someone is keeping a good eye on North Korea and Taiwan while all this is coming down, too. Both the KongSan and the ChiComs are known to be full of surprises.
91
posted on
03/19/2003 1:44:06 PM PST
by
Uncle Jaque
(MOXIE(R); It ain't for everyone, Y'know...)
To: John H K
Unfortunately the whole "LOOSE LIPS" thing on FR has mutated into clueless busybodies making themselves feel self-righteous and important and feel like they're "doing something" by wandering around chastising people for reposting info from the media here.Yeah, what loosers!
92
posted on
03/19/2003 1:46:11 PM PST
by
steveo
(We're bombing the storage depots at Daiquiri at 1800 hours.)
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
We sent some to England and have some in Diego Garcia. The ones in England have either taken off or close to it. Although if you believe the BBC, they have been lined up to take off for sometime!
93
posted on
03/19/2003 1:46:27 PM PST
by
PhiKapMom
(Get the US out of the UN and the UN out of the US)
To: nevergore
W is a big fan of punctuality :o)
94
posted on
03/19/2003 1:47:56 PM PST
by
glock rocks
(LET'S ROLL -- one order of Shock and Awe, we deliver)
To: colette_g
Did the report say that all the BUFF's have taken off? I would think that they would launch in waves in order to maintain a presence on station, like in the good old days of the Cold War
To: PhiKapMom
MSNBC.com has listed "Baghdad night camera coming up."
96
posted on
03/19/2003 1:49:56 PM PST
by
Catspaw
To: MattGarrett
i'd guess (conservatively, of course) that within 30 seconds of liftoff,
at least 100 rags were phoning home to the mideast with the news...
$0.02
97
posted on
03/19/2003 1:53:22 PM PST
by
tomkat
To: PhiKapMom
France gave us permission to use their airspace! we still need to bomb their embassy, just on principle
98
posted on
03/19/2003 1:53:50 PM PST
by
glock rocks
(LET'S ROLL -- one order of Shock and Awe, we deliver)
To: John H K
Exactly. Some moron chastized me for posting that plans called for simultaneous ground and air assault. Something that was WIDELY reported in the media. Not only that, but what possible freking use would this information be to our enemies.
GET SERIOUS PEOPLE.
99
posted on
03/19/2003 1:54:09 PM PST
by
jayef
To: Air Force Born
Haven't left yet as far as I can tell.... flicking between BBC News 24 and Sky News in the UK
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