Vandenberg flooded with hate mail over 'deadly force' directive

Santa Barbara News-Press ^ | 03/13/03 | Nora K. Wallac

[Jay D. Dyson]

[white trash redneck]

Gee, if somebody is bothered about the deadly force directive they can JUST STAY AWAY FROM THE BASE.

[MikeD]

If photography is prohibited, how did you get the picture? ;^{)

MD

[Amerigomag]

hate mail from the kiddies at UCSB

I assume your comment was made on the basis that UCSB is the closet university to the base.

Contrary to your supposition this university is the exception to the California political rule.

While the Santa Barbara community and the faculty at UCSB are loaded with these kooks and some of this does spill over to student population, the average student at UCSB is an apolitical hedonist.

UCSB is an undergraduate party school whoes student population seldom allows politics to get in the way of their pursuits. Another sizable percentage are foreign students who don't often pursue US domestic issues.

A Gaucho is not a Golden Bear.

[Nitro]

[TADSLOS]

What picture?

;~)

[CatoRenasci]

No, my comment was made on the basis of having a couple of graduate degrees from UCSB and having been there during the Isla Vista riots in 1970.

I suspect the average UCSB student has gone back to being the apolitical hedonist he or she was before 1966 -- and even that the average student was during the Vietnam war, but found it far out to smoke a few joints and go out to demonstrations with their friends, catch some rays, hoot the Unicops, and listen to the music (and tune out the speeches). Meanwhile, the demonstrations and riots were being organized by a group of radicals led by a couple faculty members (one of whom, Richard Harris, was apparently an FBI agent provocatuer) and a number of real communists - including a French student who was a communist who now works for UN, several red diaper babies, and more than one child of the blacklist - most prominent of whom was Becca Wilson, the newspaper editor in 1969-70. I knew most of these people through mutual friends and went to many parties with them, even though I was a libertarian conservative they talked pretty freely around me.

I would bet you have faculty members (some whom I still know) who are busy stirring up the kiddies trying oppose the war.

By the way, did you know the student body voted overwhelmingly in 1969 or 70 to change the name of the teams from the "Gauchos" to the "Roaches" - image a smoking roach. Look it up in the Nexus archives, although it still may have been El Gaucho that year.

[Amerigomag]

having been there during the Isla Vista riots in 1970.

For bad or good, student attitudes have changed appreciably in the last 10 years. The faculty and the community, beyond the 50 some odd square blocks of IV have not.

In fact, the antiwar movement doesn't seem to have gotten the traction in the UC system that it once did. Today the Pacific northwest with Evergreen State College at its center appears to be the hotbed.

[fourdeuce82d]

Just sent a note via a link on their site- said "go get 'em."

[xm177e2]

How can we send support-our-troops email to Vandenberg?

[xm177e2]

Send an email to Vandenberg: webmaster@vandenberg.af.mil

[Inspectorette]

Thanks - I had tried to find an e-mail address for Base Commander Worley, but didn't have any luck.

[FrankR]

"They forgot about 9/11. Jokes over, people."

Well, it ain't just 9/11...when I was IN the Air Force in the mid-60's, if we (Air Force personell with security badges) got near the B52's we were subject to being shot as well. These people who are upset have grown up on too much TV and too many Dixie Chicks records. People who are mad that they missed the protests of the 60's and see a chance to get on TV and misbehave a little. AS a matter of National Security, if they come through the front gate at Vandenberg and do not "Halt" when told to do so, they need to be arrested; moreover, if they get near any weapons, aircraft or other equipment, they should be shot...". If the email bothers Vandenberg...shut down the server.

[Inspectorette]

What was the e-mail address you used? There are people around here who would like to send messages of support to the base.

[Jimmy Valentine's brother]

Hate mail - isn't that a Federal Crime?

[CatoRenasci]

Interesting. Most of my current contacts are faculty, and quite senior members at that (some of them were full professors in 1970), I suppose what hear reflects that perspective. Are you a student? undergraduate? graduate? townie? IV street person? alum?

[Amerigomag]

I am very familiar with circumstances on the campus today. Your contacts and insights into the present faculty attitudes are spot on. Those attitudes remain very liberal and the extended community still contains many aging activists.

As an example, the fellow who poured his own blood on the base sign two weeks ago is a middled aged SB area resident who is a boarder line communist using a Catholic charity in Guadalupe as a cover.

[No.6]

UCSB = U Can Study Buzzed

"While the Santa Barbara community and the faculty at UCSB are loaded with these kooks and some of this does spill over to student population, the average student at UCSB is an apolitical hedonist"

During my time there (year after, technically, but I worked in the area and spent much time on campus and in IV), there was virtually no traction for protests along the "Blood for Oil" line during Gulf War I, despite the efforts of some prominent professors.

[B4Ranch]

"I am a very patient person."

Revenge served absolutely cold tastes better than a fine steak with your favorite lady and beer.

[wideawake]

Well said.

I wonder if any friends or relatives of Johnny "Mike" Spann will be waiting for Johnny "Jihadi" Lindh when he gets out in 2022.

I wonder if that "accident" will make the papers.