blindness due to dogma is still blindness - still 500/500.
btw, welcome to FR 
Posted on 03/18/2003 3:43:49 AM PST by kattracks
March 18— VATICAN CITY (Reuters) - The Vatican said Tuesday that countries which decided to wage war on Iraq without the consensus of the international community were assuming great responsibility before God and history.
"Those who decide that all peaceful means that international law makes available are exhausted assume a grave responsibility before God, their conscience and history," said Vatican spokesman Joaquin Navarro-Valls.
Navarro-Valls comment was the Vatican's first official reaction to Washington's ultimatum to Iraqi President Saddam Hussein to go into exile within 48 hours or face war.
And what about those who do everything in their power to circle the wagons around and protect a heinous, evil tyrant such as Saddam Hussein? Those who wish to condemn his people to continued torture and tyranny? Those who wish to leave the whole world unprotected from weapons of mass destruction? Do they also assume a grave responsibility before God for their actions?
And what about those who are supposed to speak on behalf of God and guide the flock, yet show themselves to be worthless shepherds by making common cause with the wolves? Do THEY also assume a grave responsibility before God?
I am as religious as anyone can be, and attacks upon the Church by leftists make me livid. But the Vatican's insistence in condemning the policeman for trying to do his job instead of the criminal for committing his crimes is simply too much for me to stomach any longer. When the words that come from the Pope are the same that come out of the mouths of socialist supporters of evil, I must come to the conclusion that the Vatican's moral compass has become as upside down as theirs.
We are truly in End Times, when the Vatican and the UN speak with the same voice, when the Vatican views the UN as the sole arbiter of the legitimacy of this war, and when the Vatican worries more about good men confronting evil than about evil men carrying out their evil designs. The Vatican insists that we submit to the will of the UN, and in so doing insists that we allow ourselves to be branded with the number 666. It comes as no surprise that Satan attempts to sit on God's throne as if he WERE God, but for the Vatican to invite him to sit there shows how great The Great Apostasy has become.
Worthless shepherds. They have utterly failed to guide the flock, and have become as irrelevant as the UN. May the sheep keep their eyes on the true Shepherd, lest they become lost.
There's a difference between condoning Saddam's atrocities and believing that all means of avoiding war peacefully have yet to be exhausted.
Personally, I believe all peaceful means have been exhausted. It's a judgement call.
blindness due to dogma is still blindness - still 500/500.
btw, welcome to FR
(Thwacking myself on the forehead!) Oh, I forgot. And you did hear my teeth grind when the Pope and his minions talk about this breaching the relationship between Christians and Moslems, forgetting (or neglecting) the fact that Saddam and the rest of the Islamic world want to kill off a few million Jews....and that people in the US are not that fond of radical Muslims since 9/11.
Now I see why the Church was criticized for it's silence against the action of Hitler and his Nazis. Not to mention the molested little boys.
I'm a mass attending Catholic ---but I the Pope isn't infallible on politcal matters. Catholics are not being bashed here, I don't feel bashed but the hierarchy might be getting bashed and sometimes they need to be. The US will avoid killing innocents in Iraq ---I'm quite certain of that.
And I don't care if the Pope himself says we must have one big global government, I cannot support him on that. Are you saying we must now be dictated by the UN because someone in the Church says so? What is "international community"? I'm not part of it.
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