New Age message for Christians

The UK Guardian ^ | Saturday March 15, 2003 | Alex Wright

[Conservativegreatgrandma]

I hear this all the time and there's probably some truth to it. But all in all, traditional medicine has done more harm then going the herbal route.

For the sake of all, traditional doctors need to get an open mind and look for remedies that work instead of reaching for their prescription pad.

I'm not anti-doctor. As a matter of fact, I'm looking for a medical doctor that wants to use the best possible method to treat his patients. Until I find one, I'll try to avoid doctors all I can--haven't been to one in seven years because I've seen the damage they have done. Yesterday, my sister-in-law told me her 97 year old aunt hasn't been to a doctor in over 30 years.

Some Freepers may remember my sisters and me attending the Freeper Ball at the Inauguration and pushing my sister, Vicki, in a wheel chair. (I thank Freepers for their prayers.)

They may be happy to know that now Vicki is free of ALL rheumatoid arthritis. It's gone. Vicki had been everywhere (including Mayo). Finally found a chiropratic INTERNIST who did lots and lots of blood work and used strictly a nutritional approach to where even the skeptics in our family who were having a fit about the approach she was taking, have to eat crow.

[Knuckle Sandwich Combo]

In such movements as Gaia, and in the followers of earth-based spiritualities like Druidry and modern witchcraft (or Wicca), can be discerned a genuine reverence for creation, encompassing all of life, and celebrating the deep-rooted folk traditions of our ancestors.

Yeah. Those evolved druids with their Samhain festival where they burned human sacrifices alive...now that's genuine reverence at its finest. Let's go back to those 'earth-based' times ASAP, shall we?

[Valin]

Catholicism's current afflictions of systematic abuse and institutionalised degeneracy.


This too shall pass.

[Protagoras]

Your opinion is stated, but backed by nothing. No reasoning, just a proclamation.

You couldn't find one doctor in ten who thinks that one part of a persons health is unaffected by other parts. I told you why I thought it wasn't nuts to think that a medical condition exists in a vacuum. Why a person's body parts are affected by other parts and your answer is,,it's nuts.

Without anything other than your "because I said so" explaination, it might be concluded that you are nuts.

[RLK]

Holistic=mystical '60s hippie vocabulary. It is diagnostic of an infusion of that type of thinking.

[Hila]

Yahweh's Son said: "If you love me, do my commandments." And this is the type of "rigidity" that makes me His follower, a worshiper in spirit and in truth and I live to please Him, not myself and definitely not the world.

[phroebe]

That's why there's the distinction between "food herbs" and "medicinal herbs", as well. It'd be pretty hard for someone to OD on the former. Did you ever hear of a book called Left For Dead by Dick Quinn? He treated and completely cured his own heart disease (after a failed bypass op) by using mega quantities of cayenne pepper, a very powerful example of a food herb. I've administered it myself with great success, as it was instrumental in helping reverse hypertrophic cardiomyopathy in one of our cats. Hawthorn berries is (are?) another.

[phroebe]

It drives me crazy to see the hype about how senior citizens "need" their medications. I've seen too many senior citizens improve after being taken off medications. I could write a book about this.

Maybe you should write a book! I strongly agree with the above. It drives me crazy to constantly hear the propaganda phrase "life-saving prescription medicines" when most of them aren't. It is being used to brainwash seniors, especially here in FL. Furthermore, if we get the socialized medicine so many of the sheep are clamoring for, it will seriously rankle to have my tax dollars supporting it. As it is now, I only grudgingly keep health insurance just in case someone maims me on the highway - I have no use for it, otherwise.

This thread can get confusing, though - I notice you use the word "traditional" in the context of "conventional" (i.e. modern); whereas I prefer to use "traditional" to mean "holistic". ;-)

[phroebe]

I've not been to a doctor in 25 years, myself. Great story about your sister! Yes, many diseases are quite curable, and nutrition is always the best starting point. Many doctors are well-meaning, but just too busy to do anything other than follow the standard party line approach, which is constantly reinforced by the drug company reps who fill their orders. Too bad. Good luck in your search for Dr. Right; maybe I will be in your shoes eventually, but not yet. ;-)

[DannyTN]

"REVOLUTIONARY Suicide"

Well that worked really well. NOT!!!

Either way he was able to use and emphasize some very good aspects of Christianity for ultimately an evil purpose.

[Sir Francis Dashwood]

http://www.bu.edu/arion/paglia_cults00.htm

[Protagoras]

Your "invented out of thin air" definition.
Holistic=mystical '60s hippie vocabulary.

The real definition
ho·lis·tic
adj. 1. Of or relating to holism. 2. a. Emphasizing the importance of the whole and the interdependence of its parts. b. Concerned with wholes rather than analysis or separation into parts: holistic medicine; holistic ecology. –ho·listi·cal·ly adv.

I was right, you ARE nuts.

[Dataman]

Yeah. Those evolved druids with their Samhain festival where they burned human sacrifices alive...now that's genuine reverence at its finest. Let's go back to those 'earth-based' times ASAP, shall we?

They also happen to be one-worlders and advocate utopia through tyranny.

[Sweet Hour of Prayer]

Why would relaxation therapy be construed as "New Age" religious stuff? As for treating people with herbs - homeopathy shouldn't be attributed to "New Age" as it's been around since creation.

[Dataman]

I checked Webster's (1962) and "holistic" is not listed. It was not an unabridged dictionary but holistic is not an uncommon word. This would tend to support RLK's proposition that the word arose from the 60's hippie culture as did racism, sexism, gay and other such syncretistic words.

[Conservativegreatgrandma]

Sounds like we're on the same wavelength. I, too, wish doctors would keep more of an open mind. They'd be doing their patients and themselves a favor.

[Quix]

THANKS.

[Consort]

Religion is only as good as the people who profess it, preach it, and practice it — and the quality of people is diminishing.

[Dante3]

Correct my if I'm wrong. But it is my understanding that just as there are a great many different types of Christians (ranging from odd cults to Episcopaleans) there are many different types of New Agers.

I know one woman who says she is into New Age but wants nothing to do with Wicca. She is into the relaxing therapy, certain foods as promoting health, and a wholistic approach to medicine which does not reject traditional medicine but supplements it with prayer, belief in positive thinking, and a consideration in life style. I don't see how this in any way contradicts her Catholic religion.

[RLK]

I checked Webster's (1962) and "holistic" is not listed.

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