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The Lowdown on the Showdown

Posted on 03/14/2003 5:47:33 PM PST by GLDNGUN

While most are aware by now that President Bush, British Prime Minister Tony Blair and Spanish Prime Minister Jose Maria Aznar will confer Sunday in the Azores, it seems just as many do not realize the weight of this meeting. This truly is a “war council”...


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: appeasement; aznar; azoresislands; blair; bush; iraq; peaceinourtime; war
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To: UnBlinkingEye
Oh, I forgot. I should have remembered your position on this matter and not bothered to address you. Next time I will be wiser.
61 posted on 03/14/2003 7:44:20 PM PST by Miss Marple
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To: Travis McGee
Got a link to where you predicted that the US, Spain, and GB would form a new alliance that would in some ways rival the UN?
62 posted on 03/14/2003 7:45:23 PM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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To: GLDNGUN
While most are aware by now that President Bush, British Prime Minister Tony Blair and Spanish Prime Minister Jose Maria Aznar will confer Sunday in the Azores, it seems just as many do not realize the weight of this meeting. This truly is a “war council”.

Yes I think ints a war council too.

BTW, is that you James?

63 posted on 03/14/2003 7:48:51 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: GLDNGUN
While most are aware by now that President Bush, British Prime Minister Tony Blair and Spanish Prime Minister Jose Maria Aznar will confer Sunday in the Azores, it seems just as many do not realize the weight of this meeting. This truly is a “war council”.

Yes I think its a war council too.

BTW, is that you James?

64 posted on 03/14/2003 7:49:29 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: Miss Marple
Next time I will be wiser.

Famous last words of voters that thought the Republicans were different than Democrats. Sadly they are no more than two wings of the same corrupt party.

65 posted on 03/14/2003 7:50:43 PM PST by UnBlinkingEye
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To: UnBlinkingEye
British troops are involved, as are Australia's, with support from Japan and Spain. Hardly coattail riding, nor is crossing the line drawn in the sand.

I imagine the Spanish and Brits would likely reply to your comments with a robust "France You!"
66 posted on 03/14/2003 7:51:23 PM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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To: MHGinTN
I applaud Sec. Powell's efforts to get the damn feckless U.N. to actually enforce their own resolutions (albeit our force must do the job), and the linkage to 687, with the clause of 'serious consequences' was, in my humble opinion, a masterful stroke! When Saddam ignored 1441, he abrogated the 687 cease-fire, thus stamping military action against him as legal and proper. In all, I'd say the mish-mash of international sheriffing has been quite successful, kind of like herding alligators and rattlesnakes, but the ones not with us have exposed their own butts for all the world to take note.

But I was told to think that Powell was acting as a rogue and I was told to that the president wanted permission from the U.N. and I was told it won't happen until 2004 and I was told that the March 17th date woould be broken and I was told that we want to make the UN stronger and blah, blah BS blah blibbity BS blah...........!!!!!!!!!!

67 posted on 03/14/2003 7:56:32 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: UnBlinkingEye
P. Bagala, your diaper is on too tight. Go back to DU and have them give you relief.
68 posted on 03/14/2003 7:57:21 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote Life Support for others.)
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To: Diddle E. Squat
British troops are involved, as are Australia's, with support from Japan and Spain. Hardly coattail riding, nor is crossing the line drawn in the sand.

So if the United States were to decide not to go to war with Iraq, British, Spanish, Japanese and Australian troops would initiate a war with Iraq?

69 posted on 03/14/2003 7:58:11 PM PST by UnBlinkingEye
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To: Howlin; PhiKapMom; Amelia; Dog Gone
FYI.....
70 posted on 03/14/2003 8:01:19 PM PST by deport (The Truth doesn't need a gift to be known.....)
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To: UnBlinkingEye
It takes no valor for politicians to volunteer others to attack a nation that poses little or no threat to them or their constituents

Well, they actually volunteered themselves.

And when did you start thinking leaders would attack someone that posed no threat. That does not follow. Your argument is not cogent.

71 posted on 03/14/2003 8:04:30 PM PST by Principled
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To: MHGinTN
I don't think you read what I wrote. Isn't TN the state that brought us the estimable Mr. Gore?
72 posted on 03/14/2003 8:04:58 PM PST by UnBlinkingEye
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To: UnBlinkingEye
Sadly they are no more than two wings of the same corrupt party.


Like it or not that's what we have to deal with. Attempts by wannabes or 3rd parties just don't cut it as they are too far out of the mainstream of society. Now that may not fit your bill of fare but that's what we have...
73 posted on 03/14/2003 8:05:47 PM PST by deport (The Truth doesn't need a gift to be known.....)
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To: UnBlinkingEye
“Big 3” ?????

One big dog, a poodle and a chihuahua.

The "chihuahua" (my Spanish ancestors) waged continuous war with the Muslims from 711 A.D. until their final expulsion from Spain in 1492. In addition, they put an end to Muslim seapower in the Mediterranean at the Battle of Lepanto in 1572.

The old dog of "La Madre Patria" may no longer have the bite it once had but it is still reporting for duty when duty calls.


74 posted on 03/14/2003 8:08:11 PM PST by Polybius
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To: GLDNGUN
Mark for later read.
75 posted on 03/14/2003 8:10:24 PM PST by Diddley
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To: Principled
Me: It takes no valor for politicians to volunteer others to attack a nation that poses little or no threat to them or their constituents

You: Well, they actually volunteered themselves.

You are kidding or crazy, which politician will lead the charge?

You: And when did you start thinking leaders would attack someone that posed no threat. That does not follow. Your argument is not cogent.

Did we attack Yugoslavia? Did we attack Grenada? Did Hitler attack Poland?

76 posted on 03/14/2003 8:12:19 PM PST by UnBlinkingEye
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To: UnBlinkingEye
Volunteer armies actually volunteer. That's why they're called "Volunteer" armies.

And your argument is not cogent. It does not follow that one would initiate force without reason. You have thus far failed to demonstrate that reason.

77 posted on 03/14/2003 8:14:28 PM PST by Principled
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To: FreeReign
Yes I think its a war council too.

On "Special Report" today, Tony Snow doing his usual Friday stint put his first question to the roundtable:

Tony Snow: "They say it's not a war council. Is it?"

Fred Barnes: "Of course it is".

And I will say that from where I'm sitting, there is no earthly reason for the United States, Britain, and Spain to gather in the Azores if the matter at hand is this resolution business. That was my first impression this morning, which has firmed up as the day has progressed.

78 posted on 03/14/2003 8:16:48 PM PST by cyncooper (God Be With President Bush and Tony Blair)
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To: Polybius
I don't mean to insult your ancestors, but I do mean to dispute the characterization of the U.S., Spain and Britian as the "Big 3" of today.
79 posted on 03/14/2003 8:16:51 PM PST by UnBlinkingEye
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To: Polybius

!VIVA ESPANA!


80 posted on 03/14/2003 8:17:23 PM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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