CBS's Hartman Finds ANTI-WAR TEENAGE PROTESTERS are CLUELESS !

MRC ^ | Friday, March 14, 2003 12:35:47 | BrentBaker

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Clueless anti-war high school student protesters mocked by CBS News. Really. Wednesday's 60 Minutes II ended with a short piece by Steve Hartman, the guy who does the very Americana "Everybody Has a Story" vignettes, on how he suspects high schoolers are just using the protests to get out of class: "To me, giving up algebra for peace is a kind of like giving up brussel sprouts for Lent, just a little too convenient to be commendable."

Hartman showed how they really need "to pick up a newspaper."

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MRC analyst Brian Boyd alerted me to the Hartman piece, which aired at the end of the March 12 60 Minutes II, and put together a transcript of it.

Sitting in a coffee shop, Hartman began: "Everyday I come to this coffee house in Los Angeles. It's across the street from a high school where twice now I've seen students walk out of class to protest war with Iraq. Now to me, giving up algebra for peace is a kind of like giving up brussel sprouts for Lent, just a little too convenient to be commendable. "And it's not just here, kids are walking out of high schools and junior high schools all over America. The object used to be to sit-in and take over the school, now kids just give up the ship, abandon class to stand on a street corner and bark. Never mind that at their age-"

High school girl protester, amongst maybe 20 or so along the side of a major street: "Make love, not war."

Hartman: "-they have no business making either. I just think if they're going to picket-"

Same teenage girl: "Peace not war."

Hartman: "-they ought to pick up a newspaper."

Same girl, holding a blue sign from "Not in Our Name" proclaiming: "No War on Iraq, No War on the World," .. "People who never did anything are just being bombed and suffering and becoming homeless. People-"

Hartman to her: "Where?"

Girl: "Everywhere. They, didn't they bomb Iraq?"

Hartman: "No, not yet."

Girl: "They bombed Afghanistan, right?"

Hartman: "Yeah, yeah."

Girl: "They did and yeah, people are dying and it's, it's not right."

Hartman: "They kind of got the gist."

Hartman to a teenage guy: "The leader of Iraq is?"

Hartman narration: "They're just missing a few details."

Guy: "Umm."

Hartman: "What comes to your head? Just right off the top of your head."

Guy: "Osama bin Laden."

Hartman: "Osama bin Laden?"

Hartman's piece then jumped from the street side to conservative actor/author Ben Stein's house.

Stein declared from his sofa: "I'm stunned when I meet them and how little they know."

Hartman: "Ben Stein is a lawyer, Star Search judge and fellow skeptic on this issue."

Stein: "Wow, we can miss class and have meaning in our lives and we're only 15 years old and don't know where Iraq is on the map. What a great deal."

Hartman, over video of Stein's backyard with smoke pouring out of a small device on the ground: "Ironically, even as he ranted about America's misguided youth, outside his own son was trying out the smoke bomb recipe he got from the Anarchist Cookbook. Really."

Stein talking out his back door to his teenage son: "Don't do that, Tommy. What if you set the tree on fire. Why don't you go into Beverly Hills and pick up some girls?"

Hartman: "At least he does know the leader of Iraq."

Back to the teens on the street, Hartman picked up where he left off, with a the dumbfounded guy: "Why does Osama bin Laden keep coming to my head?"

Girl protester: "What else do we feel strongly about?"

Hartman: "Finally, the most insightful comment of the day."

Teenage girl, the same one as earlier, reading from a flyer: "OK, 'healthcare not welfare.' I mean, 'healthcare not welfare,' yeah."

Hartman: "Actually it says, 'healthcare not warfare,' but I digress."

Hartman to the girl: "And you feel strongly about that?"

Girl: "No, but, I mean, like I do but I don't know enough about it."

Hartman then tried to suggest both sides are equally naive: "And that says it all. I see too many kids and way too many adults on both sides taking a firm stand without a leg to stand on. Apparently, it's better to pick a side than admit you watch way too much Jerry Springer. Which by the way, is a name I'm sure they do know."

Hartman to the clueless guy: "Saddam."

Guy: "Saddam Hussein?"

Hartman: "There you go."

And that was the end of Hartman's piece.

Of all the 60 Minutes II stories on Wednesday night, which included a Dan Rather report on how the Patriot II missiles supposedly don't work, this is the only one without an online mention or summary, at least as of Thursday night.

The 60 Minutes II page: http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/60II/main3475.shtml

[Prov3456]

No they won't.

The Educational Testing Service revised the method of scoring several years ago, making it appear that students are scoring better. (They juggle the numbers; they do not teach academics.)This deception makes both students and parents think the students are learning more, but they're not.

Have you ever watched a cashier stand, lost and confused, when the computer/cash register wasn't working and he/she didn't know how to give you change? I have.

Have you given a cashier $2.01 for a $1.76 item and watched as he/she stared in horror at the money in hand, not knowing what to do with it? I have.

Have you ever tried to read some of what passes as educated English sentences ("creative spelling", you know)? I have.

I repeat: read None Dare Call It Treason and learn a lot about our modern educational system.

[Ethyl]

Teenagers are goofballs by default, especially this generation who has been ripped off by the fifth column educrat syndicate. My great objection is if they skip class work to pursue this nonsense. Many can't read or write at even a minimum of proficiently, much less understand the nuances of political science or World History.


Maybe it is better that these kids don't go to schools that the liberal union teachers (teach) in the first place, get them out of there so they can learn and be productive people. Get rid of the teachers unions in YOUR SCHOOLS!!!

[GOPJ]

Talk about "to the point". Great comment:

I stood up and compared that discussion to a debate over how many new seats they planned to add to a porn theater. I told them that as long as the content of what was being taught and the methods used to teach that content were not subject to question, then they simply weren't serious about education - and that there was no way that I could continue to support them.

[MattAMiller]

No they won't. The Educational Testing Service revised the method of scoring several years ago, making it appear that students are scoring better. (They juggle the numbers; they do not teach academics.)This deception makes both students and parents think the students are learning more, but they're not.

That's not what I'm refering to. I'm refering to actual tests which were given in the 30's. The average person alive today will score a genius IQ on one of these tests. And the younger they are the better they're likely to do. And these older tests are heavily dependent on education.

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