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Hearst Says She Empathizes With Smart
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| March 13, 2003
Posted on 03/13/2003 9:41:09 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: Indy Pendance
Sounds like poor self-astime to me which allowed doubt to creep in and take over??????
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posted on
03/13/2003 9:48:23 PM PST
by
CGASMIA68
To: t1b8zs
Sounds like you are in need of some self-ass-time.
You really have no idea what you are mouthing off about, do you?
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posted on
03/13/2003 9:54:06 PM PST
by
John Valentine
(Writing from downtown Seoul, keeping an eye on the hills to the north.)
To: t1b8zs
I don't think it's a self esteem issue.
It's kind of like having an abusive parent.
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posted on
03/13/2003 9:54:58 PM PST
by
Jael
To: Indy Pendance
c'mon, 14-15 is stretching it for ages, but Hearst was 19..
There's gotta be some age where these people are responsible..
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posted on
03/13/2003 9:57:02 PM PST
by
Monty22
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To: John Valentine
Sorry John ...left the s out thanks for the Heads-up
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posted on
03/13/2003 10:00:56 PM PST
by
CGASMIA68
To: Monty22
Exactly. A 14 year old hauled about the country told she is the wife of a prophet is totally different than a 19 year old holding a gun in the middle of a bank during a robbery. Not that I don't believe Hearst suffered. But the situation is not analogous.
To: t1b8zs
There was an issue of substance in there too... Do you really think that if this poor little girl had a bit more "self-esteem" she could have resisted the long term effects of kidnapping and indoctrination?
I think that is incredibly naive. She did what she had to do to survive, and that had a corrosive effect on her psyche. She wound up not even sure who she was. The scars will be with her for a long long time, maybe for the rest of her life.
I think we need to give this little survivor all our love and prayers.
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posted on
03/13/2003 10:26:15 PM PST
by
John Valentine
(Writing from downtown Seoul, keeping an eye on the hills to the north.)
To: John Valentine
I wish more people would take your lead on this. The rest of the threads dealing with this subject is nothing but gossip and slanderous allegations.
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posted on
03/13/2003 11:31:26 PM PST
by
Captain Beyond
(The Hammer of the gods! (Just a cool line from a Led Zep song))
To: I still care
You know those hostages at the Kreditbank that helped make "Stockholm Syndrome" part of our lexicon?
They were absolutely older than 19. One of them even ended up marrying one of the captors because that person was so afflicted with Stockholm Syndrome and because no one knew how to treat said syndrome. They weren't weak; they were abused into thinking this way. Think of all the abused spouses out there who continue to go back to their abusers because they have been manipulated and bullied into doing such things. It takes a lot of inner strength to pull away from that.
You never know what your personal reaction is to events like these until they actually happen to you. Some people tried to break into our house and into my grandparents' house (they lived next door to us) all in one week, when I was about 11 years old. I have issues about home security to this very day, and that happened more than 10 years ago.
I'm going to leave all speculation for much later on. Right now, however, I choose to give thanks to God that Elizabeth Smart beat the odds and was returned to her parents still alive. And if that "Emanuel" laid one finger on Elizabeth, I hope and pray to God that the bastard becomes someone's prison bitch for the rest of his miserable little life.
*ahem*
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posted on
03/14/2003 12:01:54 AM PST
by
conservagrrrl
(It's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees)
To: Indy Pendance; LarryLied
If Larry says it, it's probably a lie.
To: t1b8zs; Indy Pendance
I listened to Patti on Larry King and basically she's doing a very kind and diplomatic job, of saying:
Americans, please don't be such an ass about this terrorized girl, Elizabeth, as so many of you have been, about me. Please cut short your prurient interest and your desire to tear people down. Just mind your own blessed business!
Good for you, Patti! I'm proud of you, dear lady!
__________________________________________________
The word "ass" used, of course here, in the equine sense.
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posted on
03/14/2003 1:46:13 PM PST
by
unspun
(The most terrorized place in America is a mother's womb.)
To: Dec31,1999; Monty22
#13, if you please.
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posted on
03/14/2003 1:50:11 PM PST
by
unspun
(The most terrorized place in America is a mother's womb.)
To: unspun
I think 15 is a bit too old to play this game.
It's pretty obviously she was a willing participant in this circus, and that's really sad.
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posted on
03/14/2003 1:56:10 PM PST
by
Monty22
To: Indy Pendance
So how long will it be before E.S. co-stars in a John Waters flick?
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posted on
03/14/2003 1:56:45 PM PST
by
aruanan
To: Monty22
Kindly suggest that you study some of the psychology involved; also listen to former cult members and political prisoners. It's not always about what is obvious. :-`
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posted on
03/14/2003 2:01:30 PM PST
by
unspun
(The most terrorized place in America is a mother's womb.)
To: unspun
I've looked into it some, and I don't buy it. Looks like passing-the-buck stuff to me.
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posted on
03/14/2003 2:03:08 PM PST
by
Monty22
To: Monty22
Its about how belief can be manipulated and how people may succumb to it. It's done all the time. I could bring up examples in churches, and among scientists... ;-)
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posted on
03/14/2003 2:04:50 PM PST
by
unspun
(The most terrorized place in America is a mother's womb.)
To: Indy Pendance
Anybody got a picture of patty with the rifle robbing that bank?
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posted on
03/14/2003 2:05:28 PM PST
by
oyez
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