FBI Source: Elizabeth Smart Was Married to Drifter

MSNBC ^ | March 13, 2003 | Ashley Banfield

[ewing]

breaking now..

[LWalk18]

Consent for sex is different than marriage. Children in Utah can get married at 16. Are you denying that?

You can get married at 16 in almost every state (at least girls) if you have parental permission and/or a court order. This so called "marriage" was not legal in any sense, since he was married and it was clearly under duress. I don't why the age of marriage in Utah is being made an issue...this "ceremony" was no doubt part of the brainwashing.

[NautiNurse]

Same here--heard a screen in the bedroom was cut from one side, and a screen in the kitchen was cut from another.

[stlnative]

She was not legally married to this creep. If she was, where is the record of it? She would have had to show ID or a birth certificate to be legally married. The age in Utah to get married is not a factor here... unless someone digs up a marriage license with her name on it.

She was not married to him legally... He faces counts in each state and each time for raping this young girl, this is why they are tracing his steps with her over the last 9 months (that is if he did - I hope he didn't touch her... but it is doubtful). At this point is does not matter anymore if she walked away with him or if her kidnapped her. If he had sex with her and was not legally married to her, he will be sitting in jail a long time. Let's say he raped her once a week over the 9 months, that is 36 counts of rape... Lets say out of the 36 times he raped her in Utah 18 times... He can get at least 5 years for each count of rape that occurred in Utah. I would presume that this will turn into a federal case due to all the states involved and he will face a federal court.

[LWalk18]

The father clearly said today that the screen was cut on the outside, the other accounts were wrong.

[John Jamieson]

I hope she's not PG.

[sneakypete]

You want the penalty for kidnapping to be less than murder, I'm thinking, because otherwise they'd always just kill them.

I agree,but you only give them the lesser penalty when they release or return the kidnap victim,not when they are caught with them.

[uvular]

Mr. Smart, the Amber Alert is a good idea, however, a better idea in your case is to stop using cheap vagrant laborers that you have no idea what their background is.

His advocation of the Amber Alert is perhaps well-intentioned, but the way he approached it and the timing of his comments, seem to be as hollow as his (and Mrs. Smart's) lack of common sense of hiring people from the streets to come to their home. They have to accept they made their own mistakes in this, not just the investigators.

[stlnative]

I don't think she is, they would know this by now if she was, unless she is under a month... but let's hope that she did not catch anything else from this former druggie.

[fiesti]

also heard only footprints on chair on inside of window..no footprints on roof and NO fingerprints in bedroom of Emanuel

[John Jamieson]

Right!

Some people say they can tell by the skin glow.

I can't imagine any other motive.

Interesting connection San Diego to Salt Lake connection. Old Mormon trail; they founded LasVegas.

This guy is a 200 year old Mormon.

[John Jamieson]

Why would we know? 3 months wouldn't show much. You don't think this guy cared about protection do you?

[stlnative]

Some people say they can tell by the skin glow.

I think her glowing red cheeks are from...

1) The Sun or Wind Burn

2) People hugging and kissing her - whisker burn?

3) From crying alot due to what she went through and the relief of being found

[John Jamieson]

OK, I guess some people can tell, I can't.

[stlnative]

We would not know - but her family would I am sure they did many tests on her at the hospital... they may have checked her out to see if her hymn was intact. They would have taken blood - for testing pregnancy - drugs - HIV - SIDS - etc...

[stlnative]

hymn (sp?) - I don't know how to spell it

[John Jamieson]

Yea, but they're tell us.

What difference would it make to case? I can't imagine her giving the baby up, although my wife says Mormon rules would allow it.