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BREAKING NEWS!!! SADDAM ATTACKING PREMPTIVELY???
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Posted on 03/13/2003 4:59:55 PM PST by Drewman626

7:53pm EST

FoxNews Alert just reported that Iraqi troops have left Baghdad with heavy artillary and are heading south to the Kuwaiti boarder. More troops with SCUD missle launchers are heading west. The thought is that Saddam is about to attack our troops.

This is breaking news and details are few and far between.

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To: ChicagoRepublican
Bush should play around with the UN as long as he can. It's not affecting our troop buildup, and the way it's working out, it gives Saddam false hope.

Ideally, Saddam will think he's winning the diplomatic battle right up until the moment he sees a cruise missile come through his bedroom ceiling.

261 posted on 03/13/2003 6:18:07 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Drewman626
Well we sure cant learn anything from the TV now, All I,ve seen is news about the Smart case. Enough already.
262 posted on 03/13/2003 6:18:43 PM PST by mrsalty
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To: Aaron0617
As I check all three channels again. Everyone is still discussing Elizabeth Smart.

What is going on? How is Saddam targeting our forces? Maybe Greta will feature it tonight.

263 posted on 03/13/2003 6:18:45 PM PST by Aaron0617
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To: Recluse
I stand corrected. Now that I think of it, the last 2 times I watched H&C, both days were Tuesdays.
264 posted on 03/13/2003 6:19:02 PM PST by Orangedog (Soccer-Moms are the biggest threat to your freedoms and the republic !)
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To: Dog Gone; rintense; Miss Marple
Anyone see R. Perle on Kudlow&Kramer?
The very hawkish gentleman was verrry
certain that everything's going okay!
(U.N. "quagmire" notwithstanding)

Hmmmmm...
265 posted on 03/13/2003 6:19:11 PM PST by txrangerette
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To: b4its2late
Yep. Saw that. Said the western missles could easily hit Israel with chemical weapons.

Considering that the Jordan River is more than 92 miles from the westernmost point of Iraq, I'd say that's yet another material breach. Of course, since the Axis of Weavil wants Israel destroyed,....

266 posted on 03/13/2003 6:19:21 PM PST by steveegg (Clinton and Blair didn't get UN authorization to launch Operation Desert (Kill Impeachment) Fox)
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To: GirlShortstop
I'm interested too GSS. BTW did you really mean to say Kuwaiti's instead of Iraqi's??

Prairie
268 posted on 03/13/2003 6:20:09 PM PST by prairiebreeze (I'm wearing my full FReeper uniform 24/7 these days, and remain alert and ready with shields up!)
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To: txrangerette
If Perle said it, you can put your money on it. This guy is in the inner circle. He knows what's going on.
269 posted on 03/13/2003 6:21:01 PM PST by freedom4me
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To: mrsalty
A few gas stations in Southern California are already at $4.00+/gallon.
270 posted on 03/13/2003 6:21:07 PM PST by Orion78
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To: FairOpinion
Iraqi Troops Moving Toward Kuwait

Thursday, March 13, 2003

WASHINGTON — The Defense Department is seeing movement of Iraqi troops and heavy artillery toward the south, possibly to take up positions in Southern Iraq, where they could be able to shell U.S. troops dug in inside Kuwait, defense officials confirmed to Fox News on Thursday.

U.S. officials also told Fox News they are seeing Iraqi surface-to-surface missiles (SCUDs) moved into Western Iraq within striking distance of Israel.

Fox News has already reported that the Iraqis have wired many key oil fields in the north and the south of the country with explosives for possible detonation should the coalition launch an attack.

Defense officials told Fox News that the above-mentioned developments could signal that Iraqi President Saddam Hussein is mulling pre-emptive missile attacks on Israel, as well as attacks on U.S. forces stationed along his southern border, and his own people. Officials said any and all such eventualities are built into their main battle plan, meaning there are prescribed counter-measures in place, should Saddam attack first.

The Defense Department is watching these developments very closely -- the SCUDs in the west in particular -- because the thought is that Saddam desperately wants to draw Israel into this fight. The pre-emptive attack from Saddam that has been thought about for months.

"We have to assume that if he feels he has been backed into a corner, he may believe his only real shot comes from trying something first," one official said Thursday night.

The officials, however, were not willing to discuss how military planners have taken such a scenario into account.

The United States is moving about 10 Navy ships armed with Tomahawk cruise missiles from the eastern Mediterranean to the Red Sea, senior U.S. officials said Thursday. The move indicates weakening U.S. confidence that Turkey will grant overflight rights for U.S. planes and missiles.

From the Red Sea the cruisers, destroyers and submarines would be able to launch their Tomahawks -- typically fired in the opening hours of a war -- for flights over Saudi Arabia to targets in Iraq.

The ships are part of the USS Harry S. Truman and USS Theodore Roosevelt carrier battle groups, which have been operating in the eastern Mediterranean for weeks in anticipation of war against Iraq.

No decision has been made to move the carriers from the Mediterranean, but that could be a next step, the officials said, speaking on condition of anonymity. Each carrier has about 80 aircraft aboard.

It had been hoped that the Tomahawks could fly across Turkey's airspace, but the Turkish government so far has not granted overflight rights.

Tomahawks are satellite-guided missiles normally used in the opening stages of war to strike high-value, fixed targets such as government buildings in areas where the risk of civilian casualties is relatively high.

The Tomahawks are designed to evade radar by skimming the land or sea surface and were designed in the mid-1980s. Following the Gulf War, they became one of the U.S. weapons of choice to respond to Iraqi breaches of U.N. sanctions.

The issue of overflight rights for U.S. missiles and planes has been overshadowed by the Bush administration's struggle to win Turkey's approval to base 60,000 or more U.S. troops there to open a northern front against Iraq.

The Turkish parliament rejected the U.S. request for basing rights earlier this month, and Pentagon officials said Thursday it appeared increasingly unlikely that the Army would position its 4th Infantry Division in Turkey, as originally planned.

About three dozen cargo ships with the 4th Infantry Division's weaponry, equipment and supplies have been waiting off the Turkish coast for weeks, and the troops are still at their base in Fort Hood, Texas.

During the 1991 Gulf War the Navy positioned carriers and Tomahawk-launching ships in the Red Sea and the Persian Gulf. It now has three carriers in the Gulf -- the USS Kitty Hawk, the USS Constellation and the USS Abraham Lincoln.

Fox News' Bret Baier and Ian McCaleb and The Associated Press contributed to this report.

271 posted on 03/13/2003 6:21:26 PM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion
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To: cabin
IF THIS IS TRUE would this be in the no fly zone,an would they not be toast by now.There would be planes everywhere bombing them .

I don't believe Iraqi troops fly.

272 posted on 03/13/2003 6:22:21 PM PST by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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To: txrangerette
No, I missed it. Hubby had The Travel Channel on. Darn!

Well, I am glad to hear Mr. Perle's assessment, since I happen to agree with it.

273 posted on 03/13/2003 6:22:21 PM PST by Miss Marple
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To: atomic conspiracy
Not only that, he asked Dan Rather for his opinion about the American resolve. Sadaam has a wonderful cabinet...Clark & Rather!
274 posted on 03/13/2003 6:22:25 PM PST by Kahuna
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To: atomic conspiracy
Saddam knows that a first strike is a poor chance, but he may believe that success is not impossible, and it is the only one he has.

Of course it is the only one he has
Bush has said that saddam is going and he knows it

Wouldn't you pre-empt under that situation
What the hell else can he do ?

If this contingency hasn't been allowed for then Bush and his advisers are BOOBS and derelict in their duty to protect US troops Kuwait and Israel Citizens
And allowing a first strike would be a disaster
276 posted on 03/13/2003 6:22:57 PM PST by uncbob ( building tomorrow)
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To: prairiebreeze
BTW did you really mean to say Kuwaiti's instead of Iraqi's??

No. Certainly an added benefit of keeping Iraq military out of the south helps Saudi Arabia and Kuwait, but the book (I returned it) pointed out some "tribe" that SH had vicitimized in the past (maybe Shi'a?).

277 posted on 03/13/2003 6:23:30 PM PST by GirlShortstop
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To: Miss Marple
ollie north is on FOX with hannity and clown
278 posted on 03/13/2003 6:23:36 PM PST by glock rocks (molon labe)
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To: fiftymegaton
Instead of 12 destroyers and SSNs why didnt we just send ONE SSBN?? That would have taken care of the problem.

Hmm, 24 missiles, each with 8 warheads of 350 kilotons. I'd say that's a problem-solver.

279 posted on 03/13/2003 6:23:38 PM PST by steveegg (Clinton and Blair didn't get UN authorization to launch Operation Desert (Kill Impeachment) Fox)
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To: atomic conspiracy
Use EMP weapons now! Fry the Iraqi transistors and computers into oblivion. But then maybe we really haven't perfected that kind of weaponry.
280 posted on 03/13/2003 6:23:46 PM PST by Maeve (Siobhan's daughter and sometime banshee.)
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