Moslems are destroying the Temple Mount

A Peaceful Solution To Building The Next TEMPLE In Yerusalem

If anyone's interested here's a Muslim site regarding the area: The Noble Sanctuary. It looks like this plan may be compatible with the current layout.

In ten to twenty years that is....after a fair peace plan has been developed and the extremists on both sides have been marginalized. The first step is going to have to be peace in the region.

-Eric

So where's Mr. Vancier's Nobel Peace prize -- afterall, his activities were directly responsible for rescuing millions of persecuted Jews from the former Soviet Union?

He contributed to the fall of the Soviet Union how? By stinkbombing cultural performances? By attacking consulates? By making terroristic threats? Sheeeesh....

-Eric

johno->I've read the book and the Jews will have their third temple built on temple mount

BSunday->What book would that be? (The Bible doesn't say it, so you must be talking about some other book)

Actually the bible does say it.

First you need to understand that the Holy Place is a part of the Temple. From Exodus when the description of the tabernacle of the cogregation was given, to 1 Kings where the dimensions of the temple were laid out, throughout the entire old testament and into the new, the Holy Place always refers to the inner room of the temple (which room is itself divided into the holy place and the holy of holies by the veil)

1 Kings 8:1-9:3 Tells of Soloman building the first temple and God putting His Name there forever.

The temple of Soloman was built on temple mount. Temple mount is where God put His name forever, his eyes and his heart shall be there perpetually. This temple was destroyed when Judah was carried carried into Babylon.

Ezra tells of the rebuilding of the temple. Ezra 5:11-17 tells of building the house of God in his place, that is, building the new temple on the same place as the old.

So the holy place, the place where sacrifices are to be made, is at Temple Mount in Jerusalem.

Dan 11:28-12:13 speaks of the abomination of desolation and the daily sacrifice being taken away. The daily sacrifice was made at the Temple. So this scripture requires the existence of a temple at the time of the abomination. (The daily sacrifice must be in existence for it to be taken away and the daily sacrifice is only offered at the temple)

In Matthew 24:1-31 Jesus tells his disciples the signs of the end time and what must happen before then.

Matt 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

First the gospel must be preached in all the world. Only then can the daily sacrifice be taken away.

21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

So after the antichrist takes away the sacrifice the great tribulation starts. After the tribulation Jesus returns and the whole world sees Him.

The bible tells us that this hasn't happened yet. Jesus was telling the future so it didn't happen in his days. In 70AD the temple was destroyed and Jerusalem was sacked, HOWEVER, the gospel had not been preached in the new world yet so this is not the abomination spoken of by Jesus. Also, after the sack of Jerusalem the entire world did not see Jesus return in glory (as foretold in Matt 24:29-30).

From 70AD until now in 2003 there has been no temple where the daily sacrifice can be offered. So we know the abomination did not occur between 70AD and now.

We have an event foretold in Daniel 12 which requires the daily sacrifice to be taken away. In order for this to be fulfilled a new temple must be built.

So the Bible does assure us that the new temple will be built.

The Bible tells us that we are the temple now (I Cor 3:16, 6:19). Therefore there is no more need of a physical temple. When Jesus died on the cross the temple veil was torn asunder, signifying that we no longer need a priest to enter into the holy of holies, for Christ entered once for all.

As far as the word forever is used in reference to the Jews and their religion, you should know that forever as used in the Old Testament frequently refers simply to "an indefinite time period" vice literally for eternity. In other words, the promises given to the Jews were predicated on their obedience, which they failed at. The Bible teaches that the church of Christ is spiritual Israel now. The Romans destroyed the temple along with Jerusalem in 70 AD, forever taking away the sacrifices. This is the abomination of desolation spoken of by Jesus.

As far as the gospel being preached to all the world, that requirement was fulfilled in the book of Acts (Acts 1:8). In fact, as the book closes, we find the gospel has travelled from some remote outpost of the Roman Empire, all the way to the seat of civilization.

"Also, after the sack of Jerusalem the entire world did not see Jesus return " What you missed was that there is no specified time, long or short, occuring in between what happens in verse 29 and 30. IE verse 30 could come 1 hour after or 2000 years after verse 29.

The Bible has no such doctrine as contained in the popular "Left Behind" series. There is not going to be an earthly reign of Jesus for 1000 years ("My kingdom is not of this world"). The temple was not promised to be rebuilt. The Bible does not teach that a long period of time passes between the so-called rapture (word is nowhere in the Bible) and when Jesus comes again. It is all a bunch of false teaching resulting from taking figurative things too literally, and failing to proper contexutalize, which will not stand up to proper scrutiny.

I was going to repsond but we'll never see eye to eye on this and I haven't the time to lay it all out again today.

May God's richest blessing chase you down.