Posted on 03/12/2003 9:32:49 AM PST by Phlap
TAMPA, Fla. (AP) - A former city worker who was fired for refusing to remove a Confederate flag license plate from his truck is suing the city of Tampa.
In a federal lawsuit filed Tuesday, Larry A. Carpenter, 47, said his First Amendment right to free speech was violated when he was fired over the dispute.
Carpenter was ordered in January 2002 to remove the license plate or park his truck off city property. He refused to do either, was cited for insubordination and was fired from his job as a traffic maintenance specialist in the Public Works Department.
Carpenter's attorney, J. Benton Stewart II, said his client, a member of the Sons of Confederate Veterans, is proud of his heritage and merely wants the city to develop a written policy that is uniformly applied.
Stewart said other city workers who drive vehicles with bumper stickers bearing political slogans and offensive statements are allowed to park on city property.
Messages left with City Attorney Jim Palermo were not immediately returned. Carpenter declined to comment on the lawsuit Wednesday.
Here is what you don't understand about our constitution.
Who are you to even suggest how someone else should celebrate their heritage? I don't need to read anymore of your posts because you talk like a caretaker of the Nanny State.
I am fully aware that in this country, one's race has not precluded success and happiness. Perhaps there are road blocks that one must overcome dependent on what culture/race one is born to, but those roadblocks can and are overcome. Each group has it's own roadblocks as well. I think the roadblocks we face as individuals (being too fat, dyslexic and so forth) are far greater than race based difficulties.
Identifying yourself as a "victim" doesn't improve your chances to achieve what you desire in life.
If you followed my posts, you would know that my comments (at least the one you referenced) are not defending slavery. I was simply saying that my opponent had not proven his case. He had simply pulled a few examples and tried to say that proved his entire argument. It doesn't.
Simply by showing a few examples does not make a rule. We must, as reasonable men, be willing to admit to the limitations of our propositions.
Johnny's sticker may violate the golden rule. But if LA had a cop with any brains, susie's act would be wanton destruction of property.
Out of curiousity, what problems do you encounter in this area? There have been many asserted against reason, but they themselves often suffer from logical inconsistencies that are far worse than anything they assert of reason.
Actually if you look at some of the statements from Gen Lee and Vice President Stephens that was the main issue. Slavery was falling out of favor, one reason being the rising costs, and both men by '64 had stated that they wished to end slavery, but from a Christian perspective (education, empowerment, etc) first instead of the tyrant's 'root, pig, or perish' ideal and what actually happened to the slaves immediately following the War
Say what?
Nobody. You and I are an expendable commodity. Comedians will use us for their laughs. Movies will deride us because we are an obvious target. Racist blacks (and, not all blacks are racist) will use us (and our guilt for causing everything from famine to hurricanes) to gain free money and housing. Castrating feminists will target us because, like the movies, we are an obvious target.
So, if you are white, heterosexual, middle-class, Christian male, your days are numbered. We have been America's door mat for so long, we've evolved into a spineless jellyfish species.
Even though I never owned a single freaking slave and never oppressed a woman in my life!
Oh, so I guess you and your dad were protesting in 1976 at the antibusing riots and protests in Boston then? Wait a minute, Boston is up north!!
The busing of children miles away from their neighborhood schools had the effect of accelerating middle-class flight from the central cities. Hostility to busing wasn’t limited to whites; opinion polls found that a majority of blacks also opposed it. The worst backlash came in northern cities that had never practiced legal segregation, while many southern cities, such as Charlotte, North Carolina, implemented busing with much less rancor. Central-city public schools in the North soon became less integrated, exactly the opposite of the policy’s intent
Pacific Research Institute--Broken Cities
Well heck son, I suggest you get your tail up north and help those poor folks. Seems we've handled ourselves alright down here. Matter of fact, perhaps you could explain to me why cities such as Cleveland (another yankee city) had federal regulations in place for busing all the way up until 1992. Why is that?
Don't expect to come down this way and change us to suit your ways. The reason we are the way we are is because we remember, not only the bad but the good. yankees keep coming down here complaining about everything from the battle flag to bagel shops. 'That's not the way we did it back home'. Well, if home was so great why are you down here then?!?
I remember that. It was in Time magazine.
But I also remember Louisville, Ky, at about that same time. I remember seeing the burned out busses on Dixie Highway where people had torched the busses in protest. (Remember, Ky went with the north in the civil war.)
Sadly yes. I remember reading a book a few years back that laid out states that were wavering or on the side of the Confederacy only to be beaten down by the invasion forces. It laid out what may have happened if these states had left the union and it didn't paint a pretty picture for the north. If Maryland would have been able to leave I don't think the war would have lasted very long
Funny, cause these records support it...
"It is now pretty well established, that there are at the present moment many colored men in the Confederate army doing duty not only as cooks, servants and laborers, but as real soldiers, having muskets on their shoulders, and bullets in their pockets, ready to shoot down loyal troops, and do all that soldiers may to destroy the Federal Government and build up that of the traitors and rebels. There were such soldiers at Manassas, and they are probably there still. There is a Negro in the army as well as in the fence, and our Government is likely to find it out before the war comes to an end. That the Negroes are numerous in the rebel army, and do for that army its heaviest work, is beyond question." - Frederick Douglass, September 1861 (printed in Douglass' Monthly volume IV, p. 516)
"The forces attacking my camp were the First Regiment Texas Rangers, Colonel Wharton, and a battalion of the First Georgia Rangers, Colonel Morrison, and a large number of citizens of Rutherford County, many of whom had recently taken the oath of allegiance to the United States Government. There were also quite a number of negroes attached to the Texas and Georgia troops, who were armed and equipped and took part in the several engagements with my forces during the day." - War of the Rebellion, Official Records of the Union and Confederate Armies, Volume XVI, Part 1, p. 805 (http://cdl.library.cornell.edu/moa/moa_browse.html)
And if Frogs had wings they wouldn't Bump their Butts.
LOL!! That's funny, I'll give you that one. But still look at the record on the 31 arrested state legislators in Maryland. The meeting to discuss secession was already upon them and the fact that troops were used even before something was done brings into question what lincoln was thinking. Arresting someone before they did anything? Granted, it happens in this day and age, but 140 years ago, it was unprecedented
I see the mess that the black race baiters have created, and I don't like it one bit. But I'm not demanding that all of the MLK street signs be torn down, or all of the Rap music containing the words 'nigger', 'honkey', 'cracker', 'redneck', etc be called 'racist'.
If many blacks, or other minorities want to be their own worst enemy, then they are welcome to it.
admittedly, you don't see it around much but it does exist.
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