[AppyPappy]

Yup. The parent/Gparents try negotiating with a two-year-old and then look at you with those pleading eyes that say "There is nothing I can do". I see it from single-moms with boys all the time. They think begging is an effective child-rearing method.

Give them an ultimatum. You get your child in line or we will give him a 7 day timeout at the orphanage. I bet mom suddenly finds her will to discipline.

[Xenalyte]

Give them an ultimatum.

Choices and consequences always worked on us. The parents would say, "You're welcome to continue doing that, but should you choose to do so, the consequences will follow quickly." And they ALWAYS followed through.

Three kids, all degreed, no jail time, no rehab, no out-of-wedlock grandchildren. Seems to have worked.

[Capt.YankeeMike]

your right, Appy, i know a lot of single women with sons, (I coach little league basketball and baseball) and not only are the boys starved for male discipline, but by the time they are two years old, they are TOTALLY in control of mommy. By 7 or 8, the moms have pretty much given up on ANY form of discipline but begging, and are looking 10 years older than they are, and just look plumb worn out.

No fault divorce and the feminazi movement has castrated 5 million boys, with no father (I am NOT talking just inner city here, but the white-flight suburbs) and convinced women that they can raise boys by themselves. We are all suffering, as most of these boys that i see are future felons in the making.

The Capt.

[Nea Wood]

I see it from single-moms with boys all the time. They think begging is an effective child-rearing method.

I know a single mom like this. This is how she talks to her son: "Oh, honey, would you please do this? Please, honey? Don't be mad at mommy, but mommy really needs you to do this. Please, honey? Is that all right, honey? You're not mad at mommy, are you? Please, please do this, honey! But don't be mad at mommy!" He never does do what she's asking, either. Never. And all he has to do is say, "I hate you!" and she dissolves into tears and begs him to stop saying that.

Every time I witness this, my lips are just about bleeding from biting them, holding back the screams. I don't have kids, so I know it's easy for me to criticize the way others raise their kids. But good God! That just can't be the right way.