Whose War? (Israel’s “amen corner” has plans for America to fight many wars in the Middle East.)

The American Conservative ^ | March 24, 2003 | Patrick J. Buchanan

[contessa machiaveli]

i can't apologize for my intemperate remarks. i did like buchanan at one time but lately his remarks and opinions frighten me........ no matter what the subject is he somehow manages to interject israel into the mix.
he's absolutely obsessed!

[Mr. Mojo]

Pat better hope and pray that Israel dosen't go crazy and take over all the middle east.

The loon would have an absolute coronary if they did. .....Which is one of the reasons I hope they do.

[quidnunc]

KickRightRudder wrote: … It is often said bigotry is based on stupidity and ignorance. If that's the case, how do you square that Buchanan's high education and intellegence. He got an Ivy league education back in the 1950's when you had to work your butt off to get high marks.

Well, how then do you explain Noam Chomsky?

His traditional Cathlic upbringing (Pre-Vatican II) taught him that Jews were a nemesis of Catholics for the last 2000 years. That is the lens with which he views things, and nothing can be done to change that.

I know lots of Catholics who had a similar upbringing but they don't talk about Jews and Israel the way Buchanan does.

I think he has a good heart…

Again, what evidence can you cite in support of this?

…but if you take a stand, you have to expect some heat.

Especially if what you're standing for would have had the approval of Joseph Goebbels.

[Poohbah]

It is often said bigotry is based on stupidity and ignorance.

Often said; never proven.

If that's the case, how do you square that Buchanan's high education and intellegence.

Morality (I firmly believe that bigotry is immoral--hating an entire group of people because of your personal hangups is both selfish AND a violation of Christ's commandment to love your neighbor as yourself) and education/intelligence are two separate things.

[ex-snook]

"This is a time for truth. For America is about to make a momentous decision: whether to launch a series of wars in the Middle East that could ignite the Clash of Civilizations against which Harvard professor Samuel Huntington has warned, a war we believe would be a tragedy and a disaster for this Republic. To avert this war, to answer the neocon smears, we ask that our readers review their agenda as stated in their words. Sunlight is the best disinfectant. As Al Smith used to say, “Nothing un-American can live in the sunlight.” "

But have the neo-cons (and Cheney, Rice, Rumsfeld) taken over Bush when Bush says Islam is a peaceful religion. Bush's efforts for a Palestine state, not the war, will be the moment of truth.

[section9]

Ah yes, the Brigadiers....

The souls of arid, nonjudgemental thought about American foreign policy, especially if some Jews are involved....

Pat's just got his Irish up, that's all.

Be Seeing You,

Chris

[bribriagain]

Today Rush said that Buchanan's statements have the net effect of dividing conservatives; I tend to agree.

[Starrgaizr]

The man is a pathetic self-parody.

The charge of anti-semitism is "toxic" because anti-semites managed to slaughter millions of Jews. Sometimes the accusation happens to be true -- like with Pat.

Israel's interests are aligned with Americas on the side of civilization, particularly the Western variety. And, yes, calling this Isrtael's war aligns Pat nicely with the likes of Syria, Saddam, and Osama.

[Poohbah]

Today Rush said that Buchanan's statements have the net effect of dividing conservatives; I tend to agree.

I tend to disagree, because the response to this guy's bilge is pretty much united against him.

Buchanan has always been a nationalist. In recent years, he's also become a socialist.

So, yes, he's a nationalist socialist.

[AmericaUnited]

It'a amazing how the cloud of bitterness rots at the brain's ability to think clearly.

[Ouachita]

[liberallarry]

If these guys were serious about questioning the legitimacy of the neoconservative approach they would do it on the merits.

But they aren't and they don't. Instead the throw mud by saying the Jews have hijacked American policy and, as evidence, cite influential Jews who are neoconservatives and the confluence of American and Jewish interests - as if any such confluence is, ipso facto, proof of guilt.

Mud is too good for them. They should be thrown in a vat of s**t.

[what's up]

Pat burns with jealousy for the Bushes for some reason.

[Poohbah]

Pat burns with jealousy for the Bushes for some reason.

They can get elected to 1600 Pennsyvania Avenue West; he can't.

[dennisw]

It's an age old story. Crafty, scheming Jewish advisors hoodwink righteous (but naive) Christian kings and rulers. Before Christianity they hoodwinked others. Jews are always smarter than the *goyim* who fall under their spell.

Pat is saying Christians such as GWBush and Dick Cheney are dumb and have their strings pulled by Jewish puppeteer advisors. The ones mentioned in his above article.

Fact is this war helps America's interests. Helps secure our MidEast oil interests and keeps China and Russia out of the region. Puts a marker down for the terrorists. Will drive Jihadists further underground. This shows the Jihadists how potent we are, keep the dollar strong and the premiere reserve currency. Our war will stiffen the spine of Arab nations to crack down on Jihadists. Coincidentally it helps Israel too. That's what drives the anti Israel folks in the USA nutso. Israel getting peace is impossible now. The chance of it getting peace grows after the Iraq war. After Arab Muslims are taken down a few pegs this peace chance grows. A peace that doesn't make Israel commit suicide. However I still don't see any lasting Israeli/Palestinian/Arab peace due the age old Muslim habit of violating treaties, their desire for Jihad and their demographic warfare.

 

[meema]

bump

[Poohbah]

I posed this question to hchutch; pray allow me to bounce it off of you.

Why is it that the people who claim to be the purest defenders of America's sovereignty also happen to be the ones who demand that America abrogate its right to engage in international intercourse with the nation of Israel, solely to appease the mythical "Arab street?"

[Jimmyclyde]

AWESOME POST!!!!!!

SUCK IT PAT!!!!

[dennisw]

Thanks!

[KickRightRudder]

Do you really believe PB hates ALL Jews? Aren't you in fact generalizing when you infer that because somebody butts heads with the Likudniks in Israel and America they must be bigots? PB has spoken highly of Barak's peace efforts. Why would he say anything complimentary of Isreal Labor if he's such a monster? Did you know Abe Foxman owes his job to PB? Pat recommended him for the job long ago.